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Topic: New Wetsuit recommendations
Posted By: H2
Subject: New Wetsuit recommendations
Date Posted: 21 Aug 18 at 10:35am
I am after a long john type wetsuit - full legs / body but no arms. My current 1mm Rooster one is worn out and is not really warm enough for the winter having shivered through last winter wearing it.

I am tempted by the Zhik Superwarm X skiff suit which is 2mm / 3mm and having used their wetsuit trousers all summer I like the fit and they have taken the abuse well.

Anyone else recommend a longjohn in 2mm / 3mm please? Thanks


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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 21 Aug 18 at 10:55am
Personally I would look outside of the dinghy business for wetsuits, that Zhik brand is ludicrously overpriced which would be fine if it were offering a superior product, but...

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Posted By: Gordon 1430
Date Posted: 21 Aug 18 at 10:57am
Hi
I have a Rooster race skin for Autumn or second day of an open after wearing the thermaflex on day one.
You do need over shorts with it and it does not hold hiking pads.


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Posted By: H2
Date Posted: 21 Aug 18 at 11:10am
Originally posted by iGRF

Personally I would look outside of the dinghy business for wetsuits, that Zhik brand is ludicrously overpriced which would be fine if it were offering a superior product, but...

Any brands you would recommend Graeme? Not really that familiar outside of dinghy sailing etc



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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 21 Aug 18 at 11:20am
Unfortunately my go to brand has closed, Spartan. But there are lots of good brands Ion, Oneil, are two that immediately spring to mind. I notice those skiff suits you were looking at have no arms, what's the reason for that other than to build less suit for more money? All the sports outside of dinghy sailing have far greater reliance on arm movement, wind, kite and surfing why is it dinghy suppliers think it's a great idea to call a suit a skiff suit charge more money yet not provide arms? I'd love to hear the BS they come up with for that.

For the sort of money they are asking you could go to Snug in Cornwall and have a made to measure custom suit to your own spec. Double line the butt and knee but single line everywhere else I would.

Or pay 150 or thereabouts for a perfectly reasonable full suit from any number of suppliers in the surf. kitesurf, wind surf etc. 255 for a skiff suit is unreasonable imv.

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Posted By: mozzy
Date Posted: 21 Aug 18 at 11:24am
Oneil I really like, their superfreak stuff is amazing. 

Only thing is for long john's Oneils offering has a zip. 

I tend to think if there is one wetsuit item the dinghy makes compete with surfing then it the long john. I have Gill Skiff-suit which is versatile with various levels of tops.


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Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 21 Aug 18 at 12:16pm
I really like Magic Marine. https://www.magicmarine.com/products/wetsuits-longjohns

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Posted By: H2
Date Posted: 21 Aug 18 at 12:22pm
Originally posted by iGRF

Unfortunately my go to brand has closed, Spartan. But there are lots of good brands Ion, Oneil, are two that immediately spring to mind. I notice those skiff suits you were looking at have no arms, what's the reason for that other than to build less suit for more money? All the sports outside of dinghy sailing have far greater reliance on arm movement, wind, kite and surfing why is it dinghy suppliers think it's a great idea to call a suit a skiff suit charge more money yet not provide arms? I'd love to hear the BS they come up with for that.

For the sort of money they are asking you could go to Snug in Cornwall and have a made to measure custom suit to your own spec. Double line the butt and knee but single line everywhere else I would.

Or pay 150 or thereabouts for a perfectly reasonable full suit from any number of suppliers in the surf. kitesurf, wind surf etc. 255 for a skiff suit is unreasonable imv.

I like the longjohn option with no arms because I tend to use layers. In autumn and spring I wear the LJ with a rashvest only but in winter I add a wetsuit "shirt" and spray top. This means I can take lots of options to an event and mix and match to get the perfect temperature and even take an extra item out with me which is easy to slip on between races to keep warm which is hard to do with a full suit.....but I do agree that its a rip off that they charge more for less!!!


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Posted By: H2
Date Posted: 21 Aug 18 at 12:37pm
Originally posted by Jack Sparrow

I really like Magic Marine. https://www.magicmarine.com/products/wetsuits-longjohns

Started using their boots recently and have been very impressed


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Posted By: iGRF
Date Posted: 21 Aug 18 at 1:11pm
Originally posted by H2



I like the longjohn option with no arms because I tend to use layers. In autumn and spring I wear the LJ with a rashvest only but in winter I add a wetsuit "shirt" and spray top. This means I can take lots of options to an event and mix and match to get the perfect temperature and even take an extra item out with me which is easy to slip on between races to keep warm which is hard to do with a full suit....


I remember doing that. In the seventies

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Posted By: turnturtle
Date Posted: 21 Aug 18 at 1:11pm
I would personally avoid ION for main wetsuits, they are all super heavy compared to O'Neill's technobutter ranges - although their accessories are fantastic, so I'm not knocking the brand across the board.

Pryde do some good dinghy long johns, but other than that, I'd check out Mike Lennon's stuff:

http://www.lennonracewear.com/product-range.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.lennonracewear.com/product-range.html  

I've got mixed opinions on dinghy wetsuits- Graeme is right in that they are overpriced and often crap material with poor stretch and poor seaming.  But at the end of the day, whilst a surf suit might be technically superior, there's a lot more snagging on dinghies, so a reinforced butt and knees does make sense ... hence why I like the Pryde stuff as it's a cross over between disciplines.   


Posted By: Guy Mayger
Date Posted: 21 Aug 18 at 1:17pm
Best suit I've worn... by a mile!
http://www.lennonsails.com/product-range.html
Warm and dry. The Thermalite Autumn, Winter, Spring will see you through most of the year.
Register and get 10% off.


Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 21 Aug 18 at 1:19pm
My last two wetsuit purchases have been fro Decathlon, a couple of leg 'skiff suits' and a short sleeved summer dinghy suit. The former have been used for 9 summers, one drying, t'other in use and are still pretty good (TBF 9 year old neoprene is not going to be as soft and flexible as when new). The dinghy suit has had less use over the 6 or 7 years I've had it and is still soft and very nice to wear. they all have knees and bums reinforced with what looks like a coarse knitted nylon outer skin which has proved very hard wearing indeed. Skiff suits were about 30, dinghy suit 60ish IIRC.

They don't seem to do either of those anymore but this is similar to the skiff suit and only 30  http://www.decathlon.co.uk/500-mens-kayaking-wetsuit-id_8387608.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.decathlon.co.uk/500-mens-kayaking-wetsuit-id_8387608.html



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Posted By: Noah
Date Posted: 21 Aug 18 at 2:44pm
I would add a good word for Decathlon kit. Even though I couldn't find a wetsuit to fit me at the time (being vertically challenged and somewhat rounder than I ought to be) but their dinghy boots fitted my hobbit feet and lasted about 8-10 years I think.

I lucked out & bought a pair of Musto wetsuits - steamer & shorty - on Black Friday last autumn. Got the pair for about a ton and both are very good.


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Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 21 Aug 18 at 5:37pm
I wear Decathlon side Zip boots, first class and a third of the next brands price.
I use clothing from a mix of water sports I do, Kayaking, Sailing and Surfing.
When sailing the Minimum I wear is shorts and rash vest, then a Sola spray top (Kayaking).
Next level, Gul wetsuit (surfing) always have a rash vest under this, any cooler I will put a spray top on, always with Decathlon boots.
Winter I use Gill dry suit with Crew saver thermal/breathable under garment, pair of socks over the latex boots and sailing boots on top.
Gloves are poundland work gloves and a pair of fingerless Gel gloves over these.
Always wear a cap.
In conclusion all clothes and equipment I have got from Decathlon have matched well known brands for a fraction of cost.


Posted By: fab100
Date Posted: 22 Aug 18 at 9:33am
one more vote for Lennon here

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Posted By: H2
Date Posted: 15 Oct 18 at 4:08pm
Thanks for all the suggestions - I did try and get a Lennon suit but none in my size so ended up with a Gul code zero in 2/3mm for 100 in the sales which I am very happy with and does what I was after!

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Posted By: mozzy
Date Posted: 15 Oct 18 at 4:23pm
As I see it none of these wetsuits offer any advantage over the Laser.

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Posted By: Gordon 1430
Date Posted: 15 Oct 18 at 4:24pm
they don't catch on the back corner when you gybe. so def an advantage over the laser.

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Posted By: H2
Date Posted: 17 Oct 18 at 7:50am
But should anyone wearing a wetsuit be considered to be part of the PY committee's conspiracy theory or should wetsuits only be confined to handicap racing deviants? Personally I have been waiting for a wetsuit shaped like a Laser to come along.

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Posted By: davidyacht
Date Posted: 17 Oct 18 at 8:07am
Originally posted by Gordon 1430

they don't catch on the back corner when you gybe. so def an advantage over the laser.
If you give a sharp tug midway through the gybe your wetsuit should not catch on the corner


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Posted By: Sam.Spoons
Date Posted: 17 Oct 18 at 8:27am
Surely availing oneself of a tug, sharp or otherwise (blunt tugs are definitely less efficient but that's for another thread), is in breach of rule 42.1?

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Posted By: 423zero
Date Posted: 17 Oct 18 at 9:09am
Good mention of Laser/Hitler there



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