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Topic: Worst places to sail
Posted By: ASok
Subject: Worst places to sail
Date Posted: 20 May 14 at 1:52pm
Just been reading this article on the water quality in Brazil where they will be hosting the Olympic sailing - http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/olympics/rio-2016-olympics-sailors-warned-over-sewageinfested-waters-dog-carcasses-and-even-human-corpses-in-guanabara-bay-9401252.html" rel="nofollow - article here

Looks like competitors will be facing raw sewage, floating debris, waste and dog corpses...nice

Just made me think about the worst places I've sailed in the UK. Sorry to anyone on here that is a member, but Stewartby Lake in the 1990's used to be horrible in the summer. Thick weed growths, blue-green algae and the sulphur smell of brickworks. It did a lot to build up my tolerance for lake sailing, not to mention what it probably did for my immune system! I'm sure its a lot nicer now.

I'll also add the Caledonian Canal to this. Mid-summer and I was eaten alive by Scottish midges - very unpleasant considering the backdrop!

I'm sure people can top that experience



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Posted By: jeffers
Date Posted: 20 May 14 at 2:21pm
The brickworks at Stewartby are long gone, there is a nice country park next to it now. Even the landfill site is earthed over and they are harvesting the methane from it.

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Posted By: Rupert
Date Posted: 20 May 14 at 2:25pm
I had the boat in a car park on the back of the car the other day. No water for miles. Really poor place to go sailing.

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Posted By: kneewrecker
Date Posted: 20 May 14 at 2:29pm
I righted a Laser II at Uni sailing on the Tyne, now considering the footwell isn't much bigger than a normal laser, we managed to haul over a fish head and a 'Tyne Salmon'... I didn't investigate whether it was one of Durex or Mates lineage.  

I know one guy who had to get HIV and Hep tested after stepping on a syringe on South Shields beach... well that was the story he said anyway, probably just had a dirty night with one of the girls from the Scottish Unis.

I guess that was personally topped-off by an event Craiggo ran out of Elton SC - nothing wrong with the club itself, boats were a bit dodge, but the key issue was one of my team mates getting shot by the local scallies and spending the rest of saturday evening in A&E somewhere in Salford.  Not pleasant.


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Posted By: ASok
Date Posted: 20 May 14 at 2:54pm
Kneewrecker wins - all of that sounds horrific


Posted By: iitick
Date Posted: 20 May 14 at 4:25pm
Sailing model boats....Birkenhead Model Boat Club when I was a teen in the 50/60's. Just think about it.....mind you that was pre syringe and beer came in bottles. My home club was Clapham. Not bad there but a couple of murders I remember.


Posted By: craiggo
Date Posted: 20 May 14 at 5:27pm
It was a top event James It was only fair to introduce you Durham boys to a bit of proper inner city survival.

Worst place to sail? Sorry but I never enjoyed Paignton even though I went back year after year in the 600, and Hayling has never done it for me. It's too shallow inside the bar, and a pain in the arse to get outside in a nice blow.

I now await a total flaming


Posted By: Jeepers
Date Posted: 20 May 14 at 6:40pm
What was Chess Sailing Club on Rickmansworth Aquadrome many years ago. Nice enough surroundings and clean but it was so small we had to do a dozen or so laps to get an hours race in any breeze. It was also open to members of the public who, apart from filling the place with canoes and rubber dinghies, you had to avoid swimmers and...if you were six foot+ you could tip toe out into the middle of the lake keeping just your lips above the water. Am sure my wake nearly drowned a few.


Posted By: NickM
Date Posted: 20 May 14 at 10:46pm
I remember my school "sailing club" (I think there were about three members) using what was basically a small ornamental pond half covered in water lilies and surrounded by tall trees. "Sailing" was basically an excuse to skive off tedious things like cricket. About 20 years later they built Rutland Water....


Posted By: kneewrecker
Date Posted: 21 May 14 at 9:42am
Originally posted by craiggo

It was a top event James  

ANUSC '99 IIRC... can you believe that was 15 years ago?


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Posted By: GybeFunny
Date Posted: 21 May 14 at 2:35pm
Thamesmead Sailing Club. A lake right by a dodgy housing estate, walked round it once and saw a bloke sweeping all the dog mess from the paths into the lake....


Posted By: patj
Date Posted: 22 May 14 at 10:48pm
This lot make Shearwater seem lovely! Just an incredibly shifty puddle in nice looking valley surrounded by pine trees and the only lake I know where you can put out 4 marks in small square and have all their flags flying in different directions so the sailing can be poor.
We've been flying the spinnaker running down the lake only to have another boat also flying their kite coming directly towards us running up the lake! We met in the middle (didn't bother to argue who was windward boat!) both dropped the kites and each beat on away in opposite directions.
Winds are usually light to non-existent so being stationary is quite common when racing and water quality depends on what bait is in favour with the fishermen - dog food must be the worst and they've also been known to use sailors and their boats as catapult targets.
The club hut is a wooden shed which, when bought second hand in 1961, was expected to last only ten years - the ladies facilities are tiny and the gents is just awful and there's no hot water in the sinks. The landlord only gives a short lease so no grants are available for improvement.
But the members are friendly and it's a good club to travel away from and it's only 5 minutes from home with no local alternative so we live with its failings.


Posted By: Nipper
Date Posted: 28 May 14 at 11:20am
Agree about Hayling.
 
Haven't been there for a good few years now, but used to go regularly in the 1980's & 90's for events.
 
- Always met by a miserable man at the entrance who told you all the things you were not allowed to do as you were only a visitor.
- Always charged the highest amount for an open
- Spend over 1 hour sailing out to the course and same back in if it is in the bay and the tide is coming in/out.
- Run aground if sailing in the harbour
- Have to use the visitors bar which only ever had one barman serving who was incapable of remembering an order.
- Then stuck in traffic trying to get off the Island if it was a sunny weekend.
 
I'm going to be very interested to see what happens at the Moth Worlds this year if there is a bit of a soutwesterly blowing, they had enough problems at Weymouth a few years back, and that's a much easier place to launch and sail from than HISC when its windy.
 


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Posted By: laser4000
Date Posted: 28 May 14 at 11:03pm
Originally posted by Nipper

Agree about Hayling.
 
Haven't been there for a good few years now, but used to go regularly in the 1980's & 90's for events.
 
- Always met by a miserable man at the entrance who told you all the things you were not allowed to do as you were only a visitor.


Yes that brings back happy memories..LOL

almost as good as the sign posted outside the front door of the Royal Lym YC for the easter regatta for many a year in the 90's which said "no entry for regatta competitors"

Luckily they later started to see sense and replaced it with something along the lines of 'Sailors in wet kit please use the changing room entrance' which was largely what they were trying to achieve with the original sign

Still apart from that, and the horrendous tides it always was a great start to the season and there's a mountain of memories that have come from the easter regatta, which sadly seems to have gone to the great regatta knackers yard...




Posted By: Nipper
Date Posted: 29 May 14 at 1:34pm

As a dinghy sailor, I have now learnt to steer clear of any club that has "Royal" in its title.

About 100 years ago when sailing with my Dad in a small class (Leader), for some reason we had our Nationals at the Royal Corinthian at Burnham on Crouch.
 
The class was made up of normal family people who had brought their kids for a holiday as well.
 
At the opening reception, the Commodore told everyone, that children were not allowed in the clubhouse when the Bar was open, and that in the evening you had to wear a Jacket and tie.
 
Funnily enough no-one went back into the club until the prize giving at the end.
 
The sailing was also tedious as well, launching at low tide so mud everywhere, then basically sailing up and down a ditch, sticking in the middle or the edge depending on the tide, and a bit of reaching up and down the Roach.
 
After 4 days we couldn't wait to go home.


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Posted By: kneewrecker
Date Posted: 30 May 14 at 8:31pm
Ah Royal Corinthian- puked up there several times, jumped off the balcony at high tide in my pants and tbh, was served beer and alcopops with gusto courtesy of a Fake ID... Not as snotty-yotty as you guys are making out. Not in Burnham Week anyway.

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Posted By: blueboy
Date Posted: 31 May 14 at 11:50am
Originally posted by Nipper

Agree about Hayling.
 
Haven't been there for a good few years now, but used to go regularly in the 1980's & 90's for events.

- Then stuck in traffic trying to get off the Island if it was a sunny weekend.


It really is an awfully long time since you were there, isn't it? Have you considered the possibility that anything might have changed? The mass afternoon exit of the bucket and spade brigade is ancient history, for starters.


Posted By: maxibuddah
Date Posted: 31 May 14 at 11:55am
I'm guessing that they haven't built another bridge or a tunnel or something to improve the access though in the last two years?

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Posted By: Blue One
Date Posted: 31 May 14 at 12:37pm
Had a holiday at emsworth last year, in late July. Spent a lot of time cycling on and off hayling island. No sign of any trouble getting on or off the island.
The only traffic jams we got stuck in were at west wittering.


Posted By: blueboy
Date Posted: 31 May 14 at 12:40pm
You just don't get the crowds on Hayling that you did 20-30 years ago. In the 1980s you could count on it taking 30-60 minutes to get off the island any sunny summer weekend afternoon. It's rare to experience that any more. I'm a regular visitor to Hayling and a bit of slow-moving traffic in the last couple of miles to the bridge is the worst I've experienced in the last 5 years.


Posted By: Medway Maniac
Date Posted: 31 May 14 at 3:19pm
That makes a refreshing change - I don't think Iíve heard of anywhere else with less traffic than there was.

How has that come about, do you think?

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Posted By: winging it
Date Posted: 31 May 14 at 3:45pm
People go further afield for their holidays.  Hayling is just not so popular.

Some places have great water but no atmosphere.


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Posted By: Medway Maniac
Date Posted: 31 May 14 at 4:12pm
Surely nobody was still going on holiday to Hailing in the 80ís, and I don't understand why day-tripper numbers would drop off.

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Posted By: blueboy
Date Posted: 31 May 14 at 7:40pm
Originally posted by Medway Maniac

That makes a refreshing change - I don't think Iíve heard of anywhere else with less traffic than there was.


UK annual trips per head peaked in 1995/1997. Distance travelled and trips of 1 mile or more  peaked in 2005, both now around 7% below peak. https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/national-travel-survey-statistics


Posted By: blueboy
Date Posted: 31 May 14 at 7:52pm
Originally posted by Medway Maniac

Surely nobody was still going on holiday to Hailing in the 80ís, and I don't understand why day-tripper numbers would drop off.


In fact people did go on holiday to Hayling in the 1980s and still do e.g. Mill Rythe Holiday Village. It might not be the typical sailing demographic but it still exists.

As for day trips to the seaside, I suspect they are going the same way as the family dinner. Families do less collectively than they used to.


Posted By: mole
Date Posted: 31 Jul 14 at 9:51am
40 years ago sailing in the River Stour race from Sandwich Bay SC on the coast up the river to Sandwich Town quay.
You had to pass Pfizers pharmaceutical plant where all sorts of effluent was put into the river. We managed to get in a pickle tacking up the river and capsize, my brother swallowed a lung full and was ill for 2 weeks.
Also the sound of the dogs that were kept for experiments was off putting. Sorry to offend any vivisectionists.

Anyway, , Pfizers is closed now (like everything else in Kent), so its a much nicer race.





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