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Topic: Spy photos
Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Subject: Spy photos
Date Posted: 19 Sep 05 at 11:23am
I was thinking that Y&Y should have a Spy Photo section... you know like
the Car mags. This picture is from the development thread before i had
this idea.

I saw it in France when sailing at Carnac in the Cherub Euro Cup / Briezh
Skiff round 5.

Apparantly it is called a LT300.

40kg all up
Carbon windsurfer mast
PBO rigging
3 sails
single trapeze
and it went like stink ( big air )



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Posted By: Chris Noble
Date Posted: 21 Sep 05 at 11:17pm
think thats a pretty gd idea actually

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Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 22 Sep 05 at 5:47pm
Thanks. but judging by the lack of postings I don't think anyone else does

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Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 22 Sep 05 at 6:14pm
Sounds like a good idea to me, just didnt get round to posting before.



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Posted By: stuarthop
Date Posted: 22 Sep 05 at 6:50pm
yeah sounds like a good idea to me 2

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Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 22 Sep 05 at 8:47pm
Ahhh.... i feel much better now.

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Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 22 Sep 05 at 9:09pm
Originally posted by Jack Sparrow

Thanks. but judging by the lack of postings I don't think anyone else does
Ohhh that's not true... Everyone, I mean EVERYONE wants a sneak preview of exciting new features.... hmmm, I wonder what colour decks the next batch of Toppers will be WinkWink


Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 22 Sep 05 at 9:21pm
Sky blue pink with purple spots ive heard...

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Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 22 Sep 05 at 10:57pm

Heart Yipeeeeeeee !!! I want one !! LOL

(nah not really - I want a Contender...)



Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 23 Sep 05 at 2:43pm
Yeah good idea! talking of dodgy topper colours, some special edition ones were made with glittery stuff embaedded in the hull, so they were kinda metallic !

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Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 23 Sep 05 at 2:51pm
 


Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 26 Sep 05 at 6:28pm

more spy photo's. From Phils Foils.(www.philsfoils.com)

11ft skiff concept...



Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 26 Sep 05 at 7:00pm



Posted By: bob211
Date Posted: 30 Sep 05 at 12:28am



M4 Sailing dose not look very breazy


Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 01 Oct 05 at 1:41pm
 



Posted By: bob211
Date Posted: 01 Oct 05 at 5:52pm
I think looking at the guys website the idea is to make foiling more accessable to mere mortals  who may not be skilled or the right build to sail a moth.

see www.sailm4.co.uk

Dose anyone know any more about the project is he using standard moth foils?


Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 03 Oct 05 at 10:24am
I really like the idea of the M4. If she's going to be one-design it will make foiling more accesable to everyone. The outriggers under each wing look a good idea and may appeal  to more people just due to the fact that the boat looks less likely to crash and burn. I wouldn't underestimate the boat because she does look like having a bigger sail than the moth and could be quite interesting if she is operating with different foils. Sailing in lighter winds may be interesting too because the technique would be to keep the out-riggers out of the water. If the moths develope past the M4 as Isis suggested, the M4 may be a good feeder class but just noow she looks like direct competition, although she probably will cater for sailors at the heavier range of the moth fleet. Will be very interesting to see how things turn out

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Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 03 Oct 05 at 4:14pm

 



Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 03 Oct 05 at 6:01pm
What I was meaning is that on the lighter days, you'll need to try and keep the outer hulls out of the water to reduce the drag of the boat and the overall wetted surface, ie trying to fly both external hulls located under the wings

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Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 03 Oct 05 at 7:17pm
 


Posted By: anonsteve1
Date Posted: 03 Oct 05 at 10:25pm
This won't damage the moth per se, it will merely attract people from non-foiling classes to foiling. However classy it is, the moth will always be a really hard boat to sail, not accessible to everyone. A production foiler would simply bring more people to the idea of foiling.


Posted By: catmandoo
Date Posted: 04 Oct 05 at 11:52am
They haven't beaten a path to hobies foiler in great masses, but a bit cumbersome and a different type of foiler !

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Posted By: jpbuzz591
Date Posted: 04 Oct 05 at 9:32pm
yeah but this is a proper foiler, not a cat with sum odd excuse for a foil under each hull

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Posted By: catmandoo
Date Posted: 05 Oct 05 at 12:32pm

cats where i sail have two hulls ,

I did say "but a bit cumbersome and a different type of foiler !" as the reason it hasn't caught on or liable too !

Just like the hobie Doh !!!!!!!!, thinking of the tri foiler which was as little success too .



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Posted By: sailM4
Date Posted: 05 Oct 05 at 10:32pm

 

I am the M4 designer. I have posted a couple of photos that have not been put on the website yet. I am intrested in all the comments. The project has been formed to try and bring foiling to more people. Hence the 14ft hull, and the racks with pods on the ends. I has to be said this is still very early stages, this is purely the 2nd protoype which is a long way off being the finish product. A lot of work is being done, looking into fesibility, practicality, and how much its going to cost. 

A few stats, Hull weight 18kg, Sailing weight 45kg

Max speed in 7.5 knots of breeze 14.3knots of boat speed

Max sailing speed 20 knots so far yet to be full tested.

Any questions or comments fire away.

 



Posted By: IanW
Date Posted: 06 Oct 05 at 12:22pm
Whats the sail area in relation to the moth?


Posted By: redback
Date Posted: 06 Oct 05 at 10:02pm
It looks interesting and I guess its a lot easier to sail than a moth.  I'm surprised it gets foiling in 7.5 knots of wind the crew must be hollow!


Posted By: catmandoo
Date Posted: 07 Oct 05 at 9:56am

7.5 knts is Force 3

I would be most dissapointed with any performance boat that didn't get up and go in this windspeed.

When sailing  5.9 and grossly overweight we would be twin traping and flying a hull .

 

Perhaps Scottish breeze is more powerful



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Posted By: Chris Noble
Date Posted: 08 Oct 05 at 6:11pm
Ah you've discovered our secret now....

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Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 10 Oct 05 at 6:56pm
Originally posted by catmandoo

7.5 knts is Force 3


I would be most dissapointed with any performance boat that didn't get
up and go in this windspeed.


When sailing  5.9 and grossly overweight we would be twin traping and
flying a hull .


 


Perhaps Scottish breeze is more powerful



Did you read that the right way.

14.3knts boat speed in 7.5 knts of breeze. in other words twice
wind speed.

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Posted By: catmandoo
Date Posted: 10 Oct 05 at 10:40pm

Captain Sparrow , bin at the rum ????

 

I read it correct , think you are missin my point ,

Point being that I would expect any high performance boat to be doing its stuff in a force three, yup twice wind speed is cool !!!!

 

 



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Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 11 Oct 05 at 9:30am
Hic...Hic!

"Oh what shall we do twith the drunken sailor, what shall we do with the
drunken sailor erly in the morning!"

Now where's that little minx Miss Swan gone?



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Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 11 Oct 05 at 2:58pm
 


Posted By: I luv Wight
Date Posted: 14 Oct 05 at 9:24pm




new lightweight development class IC ?

rig testing


Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 14 Oct 05 at 9:45pm



Posted By: I luv Wight
Date Posted: 14 Oct 05 at 10:05pm
Originally posted by Isis

2
sails, its proven to be quicker than a single sail of the same area



So i can expect your moth to have a 5m mainsail and a 3 m jib and it will be quicker than a normal 8m sail???...

Do you really believe that?

the PY for a pico with a jib is slower than for single sail ( but I spose there's 2 people )



Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 14 Oct 05 at 10:37pm



Posted By: hurricane
Date Posted: 15 Oct 05 at 9:00am

jibs mean less pointing going upwind so its an advantage not to have one!

 



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Posted By: aardvark_issues
Date Posted: 15 Oct 05 at 6:17pm
I find that the boats with the most outrageous poiting abilities are the ones with jibs - Nat 12 and Int Canoe for starters. Single sails are better off the wind, but a decent jib set up adds loads of efficiency upwind...


Posted By: Scooby_simon
Date Posted: 15 Oct 05 at 8:53pm

It depends on the boat and the Speeds involved (and the courses to be sailed).

I only have recent Cat experience; but upwind the jib just gets in the way - it's what limits the pointing; Cats with single sails (Shadow; Inter 17; A class; 18HT) all point a little higher than the boats with jibs.  now reaching (espically when not fully powered up the jib helps heaps as it helps to keep the flow attached to the back of the sail.  Same goes for off the wind without a kite.

Again; off the wind with the kite up IMO the jib just gets in the way / disturbs what is going on with the kite putting flow down the back of the mainsail.

 

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Posted By: I luv Wight
Date Posted: 16 Oct 05 at 3:43pm
The moth rules are 'open', so that if it's not banned, then it's allowed. So you could put a jib on a moth ( as long as total sail area is >8 sq m.

The 'new IC' is intended to increase downwind speed and get therefore apparent wind sailing /big gybing angles- so taking the jib off and bigger main should help.

Most 'pointing' boats point cos that's their fastest vmg upwind, because the hull shape / rig etc etc are such that there is little speed increase for footing off.
eg laser points high, but makes lots of leeway.

A cat, or moth ( esp a foiling moth ) has low pointing angle, but the boat speed is very high - so are much better vmg upwind.


Posted By: ssailor
Date Posted: 16 Oct 05 at 7:17pm
Depends on the class entirely, jibs may limit pointing but they keep the flow over the main - in the 14 in anything above a three or four we are planing upwind thus we bear off by about 3-5degrees this is quicker than someone trying to point - to plane or not to plane 

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Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 16 Oct 05 at 7:27pm



Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 16 Oct 05 at 10:07pm
seen in Vancover. 16ft single handed skiff prototype. Voodo Skiff. Looks
VVVVVVV sweet to me.



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Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 16 Oct 05 at 10:11pm
what can I say?

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Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 16 Oct 05 at 10:40pm



Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 17 Oct 05 at 6:41pm
Been looking at it on SA but not much more info than whats here.

PS I take it you mean the Voodoo Skiff not the thing with a 'A' Class rig on
it?

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Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 17 Oct 05 at 6:56pm

The Voodoo skiff looks like a really nice boat, but looks like she has been heavily influenced by the 49er. Don't really fancy the way the deck curves, could cause a few nasty moments. Is there any info on what sort of sail area she will be carrying or the construction of the rig?



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Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 17 Oct 05 at 11:12pm

Originally posted by Jack Sparrow

seen in Vancover. 16ft single handed skiff prototype. Voodo Skiff. Looks
VVVVVVV sweet to me.

Looks v.nice. A bit like a very expensive Musto Skiff. Got any contact details for the builder?

Rick



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Posted By: tgruitt
Date Posted: 19 Oct 05 at 5:07pm
aaaahhh i think i just c*m. now where's the kleenex. that is the sexyist boat i have ever seen in my life. If i could sail one i would have one!

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Posted By: jpbuzz591
Date Posted: 19 Oct 05 at 8:44pm

WOW! i think cud sum it up in a word.



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Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 27 Oct 05 at 12:08am



go here for more

http://www.sailinganarchy.com/fringe/2005/voodoochild.htm" target=_blank _blank?>http://www.sailinganarchy.com/fringe/2005/voodoochild.htm



Posted By: Cheeky
Date Posted: 28 Oct 05 at 9:37pm
Nice


Posted By: aardvark_issues
Date Posted: 31 Oct 05 at 5:23pm
nice, but in true north american style, rather heavy... 80 Kilos for a narrow, 16 foot boat?


Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 01 Nov 05 at 9:15pm
Originally posted by turnturtle

Originally posted by Guest#260


Looks v.nice. A bit like a very expensive Musto Skiff. Got any contact details for the builder?

Rick



SA threads seem to suggest it's going to be similarly priced to the musto/700- can't see how that will be feasible once you pay gordon...

remains to be seen if it's just a flash in the pan compared to the other two principal classes that are building momentum.


I have no idea how they can think that will be built for the MPS price ... it's too big for a single hander - I bet they do a 2 person version.

Rick



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Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 02 Nov 05 at 12:39am
Can you imagine dragging a 16 foot 80 kg hull up a slip way by yourself, especially when its all up sailing weight will be much heavier, after a hard days sailing? Would be a nightmare. Would be interesting if they did make it a double hander with a high aspect main sail and no jib. Can't see her fairing well agasinst the MPS comercially as it stands.

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Posted By: Ian29937
Date Posted: 02 Nov 05 at 8:57am
I read that as 80kg sailing weight - same as the MPS.....


Posted By: Mike278
Date Posted: 02 Nov 05 at 10:31am

[QUOTE=49erGBR735HSC]Can you imagine dragging a 16 foot 80 kg hull up a slip way by yourself, especially when its all up sailing weight will be much heavier, after a hard days sailing? Would be a nightmare. [QUOTE]

have you never sailed a contender?



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Posted By: aardvark_issues
Date Posted: 02 Nov 05 at 5:42pm
I wasn't really saying that 80KG was too heavy to be practical - more that it is heavier than it should be to go as fast as it looks....



I suppose we don't really know if the quoted 80kg is bare hull, or rig and foils too...


Posted By: Guest
Date Posted: 02 Nov 05 at 6:33pm

Mini Boss - ughg no ..

Anyway ... yes there are over 30 MPS's in Switzerland and almost 20 in Germany.

Getting close to ISAF International status now ...

I don't see how they can make the Voodoo thing the same weight as the MPS and 2 foot longer ... oh well, when they have finsihed the project we'll all see what the score is, until then there is only really one choice ...



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Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 02 Nov 05 at 7:44pm
Originally posted by Guest#260

Mini Boss - ughg no ..

Anyway ... yes there are over 30 MPS's in Switzerland and almost 20 in Germany.

Getting close to ISAF International status now ...

I don't see how they can make the Voodoo thing the same weight as the MPS and 2 foot longer ... oh well, when they have finsihed the project we'll all see what the score is, until then there is only really one choice ...

Hence the reason I thought it was bare hull weight. For it to be as light as the MPS but 2 foot longer wouldn't that demand a more expensive construction to make a boat which is bigger but just as light? ........ (and from what I remember, Contenders are fairly light, aren't they???)



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Posted By: Mike278
Date Posted: 02 Nov 05 at 11:26pm

From the contender class rules:

16.1 The hull in dry condition shall not weigh less than 83kg including all fixed fittings and a traveler strop, but excluding the centreboard and its retaining fittings. In case the compass is fixed to the hull the trade mark and type of the compass must be noted in the measurement certificate.



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Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 02 Nov 05 at 11:32pm
The rules can't be argued with, but always thought they were really light boats. I haven't sailed contenders before but know a lot of people who did and still do. Maybe they're light in comparision to 505s which is the other class the majority of the Contender sailors I know also sailed....

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Posted By: Voodooskiff
Date Posted: 03 Nov 05 at 4:02am

Originally posted by Cheeky

Nice

Hello Uk, Thanks for the splash of our Voodoo 16, we have joined your forum and would welcome input and thoughts on this project. Threads are running on Sailing Anarchy, forums. The boat resides in North Vancouver B.C. Canada. Design was founded from my Int14 days. hope you like the boat, regards Rob Burton.



Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 07 Nov 05 at 6:33pm

Latest pictures of the newest 'R' class design to be launched. For those
that don't know about em' they live in NZ and have slightly less up wind
sail area than a UK cheurb and slightly more down wind area and are just
a tiny bit longer.

go here for more

http://www.rclass.org/info/construction/leech-mkiii/launch - http://www.rclass.org/info/construction/leech-mkiii/launch




Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 07 Nov 05 at 8:11pm



Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 07 Nov 05 at 9:21pm
Nice........Not as good paint jobs as us UK cherubs tho :D.

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Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 07 Nov 05 at 10:26pm



Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 07 Nov 05 at 10:45pm
Would love to see those "R" classes reach the UK, lots of scope there for ideas for UK Cherubs though........

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Posted By: gonzo
Date Posted: 08 Nov 05 at 7:14am
Apart from that boom being so low. Wont it make for awful slow tacking especially in a breeze. Dontfancy being at the front end of that unless it was a one way run downwind


Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 08 Nov 05 at 11:01am
 


Posted By: Wave Rider
Date Posted: 08 Nov 05 at 5:38pm
I agree Isis. They are basically the same boat just with the slightly longer length they become marginally less easy to pitchpole and the kite may counteract this i guess.

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Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 08 Nov 05 at 6:06pm
I was meaning from the point of hull design, from what I've seen of them through pictures, the hulls are a bit different to the new cherub designs. There are other elements such as the rig and the upwind sail plan , although slightly smaller upwind area, the sail plan looks pretty impresive. Are UK Cherubs allowed fixed poles?

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Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 08 Nov 05 at 7:05pm
  


Posted By: aardvark_issues
Date Posted: 08 Nov 05 at 9:55pm
But only until the end of the next Cherub Nats...

Go figure


Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 09 Nov 05 at 3:47am

Originally posted by gonzo

Apart from that boom being so low. Wont it make for awful slow tacking especially in a breeze. Dontfancy being at the front end of that unless it was a one way run downwind

As a crew, I'd be looking at the area between the main and boom and going through there between every tack and gybe, looks like more than enough room to do it, even wire to wire in a rush!



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Posted By: Blobby
Date Posted: 09 Nov 05 at 5:15am

Moving on - can anyone spot a family resemblance here and guess what is going on...



Posted By: 49erGBR735HSC
Date Posted: 09 Nov 05 at 6:29am

Appart from the flaired hulls can't see a thing  Do you think Julian has been busy again?



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Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 09 Nov 05 at 4:00pm
isnt that the new 79er for disabled people? 

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Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 09 Nov 05 at 8:08pm



Posted By: Blobby
Date Posted: 10 Nov 05 at 4:27am

Carshalton is on the money - it is a new Bethwaite design to bring sportsboat performance sailing to disabled sailors and from what I have heard dribbling out of the ISAF conference that is going on in the hotel next to my work the boat has been selected to be the new keelboat for the paralympic games.

It started life as a design commission for Julian but he now has two months to get production into full swing...



Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 10 Nov 05 at 7:12pm
wicked that looks like a fun boat to sail.  it will be more exciting than the pants sonar!!

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Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 14 Nov 05 at 5:45pm
Can you tell what it is yet?

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Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 14 Nov 05 at 6:20pm
  


Posted By: Iain C
Date Posted: 15 Nov 05 at 10:01am

They can't get it on the water until Gul have finished designing their new sailing kit to match their Tron-inspired boat. (Some of the younger contributors to this forum may well not remember Tron, let's just say that upwind and down Will and Lucy will be tacking and gybing through angles of precisley 90 degrees, and if you try to duck their transom your boat will be vaporised...)

They went for the first fitting of their new kit the other day, Gul have released this picture as they reckon this could represent the way forward in skiff clothing in 2006...



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Posted By: jpbuzz591
Date Posted: 15 Nov 05 at 8:38pm
wat the hell!

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Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 15 Nov 05 at 10:52pm
Originally posted by jpbuzz591

wat the hell!


this might help..... http://www.3gcs.com/tron/video/QT/hawk_fc_320_176.mov - http://www.3gcs.com/tron/video/QT/hawk_fc_320_176.mov

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Posted By: big man is back
Date Posted: 18 Nov 05 at 11:11am
thats just a winsurf rig isnt it

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maybe theres more to life than being really really really really..........really good looking


Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 18 Nov 05 at 11:22am
yer tacking might be a little bit of a problem with a winsurfing rig!

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Posted By: big man is back
Date Posted: 18 Nov 05 at 11:32am
dont forget about the gybe

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Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 18 Nov 05 at 11:41am
yer true!!  it woulod just be a pain in the ars all over but does look quite cool!!  and means u can change your rig for the conditions!!

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Posted By: big man is back
Date Posted: 18 Nov 05 at 11:54am

but how would you handi cap it ?



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Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 18 Nov 05 at 2:04pm
yer that boat is cool cos it is yellow!1  all yellow boats are cool!!


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Posted By: Black no sugar
Date Posted: 18 Nov 05 at 2:21pm

Yeah sure... There's an old yellow Skipper14 at Shoreham... nice !

Even better, check this one that redback posted a while ago!  Big smile



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Posted By: Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 18 Nov 05 at 2:53pm
I take it that these Spy Photo's are of the carrying the latest development
sails from 'Fifes'   



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Posted By: les5269
Date Posted: 19 Nov 05 at 3:56pm
As much as I like yellow boats not all are cool

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Posted By: bigtsailing
Date Posted: 19 Nov 05 at 4:46pm

i started of sailing a yellow topper (for 100 quid)



Posted By: carshalton fc
Date Posted: 22 Nov 05 at 11:13am
yer a yellow topper definatly isnt cool!!

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Posted By: Isis
Date Posted: 24 Nov 05 at 6:27pm
  


Posted By: stuarthop
Date Posted: 24 Nov 05 at 7:49pm

Fair do's that is 1 sweet cherub!



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