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Eisvogel
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Topic: "Protest" call when out of range Posted: 18 May 17 at 9:47am |
Scenario: a club pursuit race on a reservoir, with little to no wind. Boats sailing/drifting to the start-line (after the warning signal). Some (but not all) boats get towed to the start-line to get there in time for their class start. Violation of rule 41 (outside assistance).
Question: in order to protest, one would have to hail "protest" while on the water, and follow up with a written protest at the end of the race. If I am too far away, what do I do? Do I shout "protest" at the top of my voice across the pond? It's easy if the offending boat is right next to you, but what happens if it isn't?
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JimC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 May 17 at 10:07am |
Anyone planning to protest under RRS41 in those circumstances at a club racing level should take a long hard look at themselves. It would be more appropriate for the RC to look at the fairness of competition if any boats missed their start.
However the rule is clear enough: "if the other boat is beyond hailing distance, the protesting boat need not hail but she shall inform the other boat at the first reasonable opportunity". Edited by JimC - 18 May 17 at 10:07am |
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Eisvogel
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 May 17 at 10:17am |
OK, thanks, that answers my question!
And yes, some of the other boats missed their starts, because there was too little wind to get to the start line on time. As for the long hard look -- it's more a case of going through a protest to see how it works, and to practice the procedure in an amicable and non-combative environment. It was a good learning process for everybody involved. There was actually not a protest against the other boats (which would not have been possible due to not calling out "protest" at the time anyway), but a call for redress. Edited by Eisvogel - 18 May 17 at 10:25am |
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Neptune
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 May 17 at 11:09am |
I think a long hard look at why the heck you'd go racing if there wasn't enough wind to reach the start line
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Brass
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 May 17 at 11:13am |
Interestingly, Australian Sailing has resolved an issue around this problem with the following prescription to rule 26
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Eisvogel
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 May 17 at 11:21am |
There was no wind between the launching area and the start line. On the rest of the water there was enough wind to do a (short) race.
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Sam.Spoons
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 May 17 at 1:38pm |
In the UK summer you'd only race once a month if you demanded luxuries like wind
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