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rich96
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Topic: Laser2 Posted: 08 Jul 15 at 12:13pm |
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There are cheap GRP Phants around - just not the later epoxy ones |
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Jul 15 at 12:46pm | |
That's why I said "if you get in to it"... |
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transient
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Jul 15 at 12:46pm | |
Re Inversion.
Years ago I tried a 9 litre masthead float on a Laser 2.....it slowed the inversion down by about 4 seconds. Unless you can get straight on the dagger board L2's invert. |
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giwy1
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Jul 15 at 6:09pm | |
So looking at everyone's responses, the L2 is a no no for me for various reasons.
I think in the long term it's probably best to have a single handler for just me when I want to go out on my own and double if I want to take anyone out. So if I have got everything right: Single Hander Choices: RS Vareo Phantom Wanderer (shortened Wayfarer) Sport14 GP14 Double hander Albacore Wayfarer Correct? |
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Riv
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 Jul 15 at 6:53pm | |
For me the choice would depend on the slipway, Nice solid shallow easy to use, then go for a Wayfarer. They make good easy single handers. They sail well with the main only and the board half up as long as you only sheet to the transom corner. Ours is on a mooring so no issue. Make sure it's got reef points as rolling the sail around the boom is a pain. A set of sails from a 12ft dinghy works well for rough days.
If you have a rubbish slip then weight is critical so for a wayfarer you would have to invest in a really top notch trolley or if you can't afford one get an Albacore or GP with a small set of sails. The GP goes well with the main only as well and are cheap and easy to find. Get a GRP one. |
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zippyRN
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 15 Jul 15 at 11:57pm | |
abso-flippin'-lutely - we all seen them people who have a bad experiuenceo f dsailing because they use blown out sails on a poorly set up rig ...
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piglet
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jul 15 at 9:25am | |
Here Here, I had the opportunity to hop into a young lads Topper for the allcomers race at KSSA.
It had got breezy and the lad couldn't cope. Well the boat itself was sound but had original controls & a baggy sail. The best I could manage upwind was a close reach with the board 3/4 up, I was flat hiked & at no time could I get the tiller anywhere near centre line.
I talked to the Dad after but got the normal 'he's just starting out' thing, I'm not being critical because I have been there myself but the young lad is more likely to stick at it if his boat works.
So,
Yes, the skinny bits of string are an essential part but also they must work effectively.
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gordon1277
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jul 15 at 12:29pm | |
I have this argument with the club instructors who dont seem to understand that having more purchase and things that work properly would make life easier for the trainees. When I bought 4 Toppers which were all race boats with multipurchase downhauls, kickers etc they promplty took them back to very basic and seem to have lost the purchases for when someone wants to race a boat.
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Riv
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jul 15 at 7:09pm | |
Gordon I agree with what you've said. I have similar issues:
Being able to change the rig shape the camber, twist and trim and understanding when and why is important and makes the whole thing more fun. After years of sailing and vaguely guessing at the whys and wherefores I stumbled across Frank Bethwaites last book "Fast handling tchniques". This is the only book I have read so far that l can understand and that explains everything. Maybe your instructors need to educate themselves? |
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