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    Posted: 07 Oct 12 at 9:12pm
Hello all, 

I have a f18 nacra which I love but I fancy buying a skiff to mess about on. 

I have always wanted a boss but wonder if it too much of a handful and whether a laser 4000 would be more suitable. I understand that the laser 5000 is more comparable to the boss but they seem even rarer than a boss. I do not want to spend a fortune as it would be my secondary boat and you seem to get more boat for your money with a boss. 

I understand that there will be much swimming with either of these and it will be very different to the cat but I am prepared for this. Myself and crew would be circa 180kg so classed as heavy weights and we are not interested in racing and would be used purely as a thrill machine. 

My question is whether you can still get spares for boss dinghies. Also is the sailing difficulty between a boss and laser 4000 is very different. Any experiences people have would be much appreciated. 

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Don't dismiss the 5000.... We are still very active, far more so than the Boss (not saying the Boss is not a good boat)....we have a calendar of events, class training and boats are cheap ish and fun....have a look on the Facebook page or Laser5000.org. If you get a boat there will be lots of support available...if you are a heavy crew the 5k will give you it's of thrills and spills. Inlands at Rutland on 20th October if you wanted a look...
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Your too big for the 4000 we had one at less than your weight and it felt underpowered that was after coming across from sailing 5000s for years i would look for a 5000 rather than a boss as there is more about but saying that the boss with the 41 sq meter kite looks like fun
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The active class of the 5000 would likely make getting spares that work correctly easier with that than the Boss, which is a truly dead class.

Having said that,

*engage plug mode*

rather than hanging around, have you considered sitting down? Get a B14!

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Dont dismiss an old RS800. Seen one recently going for £2000.
Much better way to spend your money than an old 5000 or Boss that are worthless but have similar running costs.
So much nicer boat as it doesnt weigh 5 tonnes!!!!
 
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Or an old I14? Loads of spares kicking about the class...
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L4k and the Boss are very different boats, especially for the helm.  The 4k will feel smaller and more sailable in confined space, the Boss needs a good expanse of water.  AFAIK some Boss spares can still be sought from Wet & Windy as they're just the same as on the ISO, but there could be some specific items which you'd need to get machined if your current bit broke- probably best to speak to someone there, but they're going to be pro-Topper obviously. 

Personally if it's just for giggles, I'd look for a 5000 or ideally, an RS800 or B14 as has been suggested.  
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not sure you can get a replacement mast for the 5000.....
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Originally posted by haroosh

Or an old I14? Loads of spares kicking about the class...
I agree, we have got an old (1987) penultimate 14, and it is great fun, so far all that has been had to be repaired was the mainsail and that was because I fell through it! Anyway, they are great fun, and not as expensive as other twin trap boats, ours was £400?

Then again, I am no expert on this matter, the only twin trap boat I have sailed is our 14 :)


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If I was looking for a skiff just for a laugh surely a 49er would be good. Pick one up for 1.5k - 2k
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