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Yes, GBR are screwing it up so lets change the course!
 
I see we managed to re-seed the rowing lanes to get the Brits out of the windy side of the rowing course too.
 
C'mon, its the same for everyone, show some faith in our guys!
 
ISAF sailing on TV will die on its ar.. soon if it doesn't take a leaf out of the Extreme40 notice of race - look at the rubbish those guys put up with to earn their keep!


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Originally posted by Mark Jardine

I've just written a piece on this at www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/165067/Between-the-rocks-and-a-hard-race
A good item but its focus is on the medal race format rather than the course area which is under discussion here ... of course one componds the other.
 
Whilst the pro's and con's of the medal race are well known at least the implications of the medal race are not random they are known.
 
Racing on the Nothe course is making a mockery of the competition; they could stop this now and move the medal races to a better location.
 
The crowds on the Nothe can still gather and enjoy the atmosphere of watching together on the big screen just as people do on "murry mount" but lets not turn the sport into a farce.
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Originally posted by L192444

Just looked at the mark placings; on one beat Anslie went from 2nd to 9th ... and slater from 9th to 2nd ... those kind of changes just don't happen at that level unless the wind is wacky.
 
They binned off a 470W race yesterday which looked far more stable than that ...
 
Please don't make a lottery of our sport.


Ainslie was matching Jonas which was why he dropped down the leaderboard.... With everyone covering each other you can expect a lot of place changes.
Were we watching the same race ... looked like a loose cover to me with a big windshift and pressure change ... benefiting the other side of the course.
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Originally posted by rodney

Just to be clear!  Most of the competitors expressed their doubts with regard to the wisdom of using the Nothe course at all for the reasons you have all mentioned.  As we all know ISAF knows best!!!
 
Well it's time to stop this now and run some better racing ... it may have been a "good idea" at the time but the way this is unfolding as as per expectation of the sailors ... lets not make the sport look any more daft ...
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This is what others are making of it ....
 
 
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Pretty sure Ainslie even criticised it post-race yesterday? In Athletics and Track Cycling, the tracks and stadiums have been carefully engineered to be as fast and fair as possible- the partial roof of the Olympic Stadium for example is designed to try to reduce the swirling winds that oft plague such venues. Whilst with sailing, they've gone out of their way to produce a course that's slow and random.
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Originally posted by L192444

Just looked at the mark placings; on one beat Anslie went from 2nd to 9th ... and slater from 9th to 2nd ... those kind of changes just don't happen at that level unless the wind is wacky.
 
They binned off a 470W race yesterday which looked far more stable than that ...
 
Please don't make a lottery of our sport.


Ainslie was matching Jonas which was why he dropped down the leaderboard.... With everyone covering each other you can expect a lot of place changes.
Needs to sail more...
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Just to be clear!  Most of the competitors expressed their doubts with regard to the wisdom of using the Nothe course at all for the reasons you have all mentioned.  As we all know ISAF knows best!!!
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Just looked at the mark placings; on one beat Anslie went from 2nd to 9th ... and slater from 9th to 2nd ... those kind of changes just don't happen at that level unless the wind is wacky.
 
They binned off a 470W race yesterday which looked far more stable than that ...
 
Please don't make a lottery of our sport.
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