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Oatsandbeans
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Topic: Unhooking on the wire Posted: 11 Jul 12 at 10:08am |
An RS 500
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Oatsandbeans
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 Jul 12 at 10:17am |
The video was useful - it has got to be easier doing a wire to wire gybe in a 2 man boat than a MPS, I just need to sort out the routine. Sten's technique of backing up the new spin sheet on the wire and holding both in one hand ( the front one ), looks good. So I would then grab the handle with the rear hand unhook and come in looks like it could be the best way. I suppose I'm going to have to get wet and try it (forecast for 25 knots tonight hat should be enough!).
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winging it
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 Jul 12 at 10:27am |
It should be very doable in a 500, just treat the kite like the jib, but make sure your helm has born off enough to depower first, and jump out too soon afterwards.
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the same, but different...
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ellistine
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 Jul 12 at 10:33am |
Another video with lots of tacks and gybes.
It's not a 500 and it has a self tacking jib which makes it a bit easier but you'll get the idea.
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themeaningoflife
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 Jul 12 at 10:47am |
In the 500 (only sailed it a few times though) we found it best for the helm to cross cleat the jib so through the gybe the crew only has to worry about the spinnaker sheets and then gybe it like a 29er (seen here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx0NVV7FvEg&feature=related as shown from 2:05 onwards). The crew can go out on the handlle and either hook themselves on with the sheet hand if the loads aren't too high or hang and give the sheet to the helm once through the gybe, leaving both hands to hook on as in a tack. Hope this helps.
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alstorer
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 Jul 12 at 11:13am |
an assymetric? |
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winging it
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 Jul 12 at 12:12pm |
I'm too old skool to instantly think of that Al, but once the fog was lifted, all became clear....
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the same, but different...
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Oatsandbeans
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 Jul 12 at 12:18pm |
Thanks for the video it was useful. I think that the jib is a pain in the 500 and I try to get the helm to do that in the gybes ( he doesn't always remember!, but that is not a great problem). I think with a bit of practice and possibly cutting down the spinnaker sheet length a bit more I can fix this. I don't know whether its because its on video and it always looks easy on video, but the 29 er looks quite easy to move about on the manouveres. The 500 is deeper and its not quite so simple getting across smoothly without falling over ( maybe I'm just too old for this game!).
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sten
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jul 12 at 11:23am |
work out the optimum foot work for your boat, the least steps is usually best, triangulated where possible(3 points of contact in triangle) so with your feet shoulder width apart and a hand can be used to steady at times. I use my hand for balance by leaving it holding the wire to the last moment and on the deck as I duck the boom and help push back up on the other side.
it will also help allot if the boat is flat, and the helm steers a constant rate of turn.
if the boat heels to windward going into the gybe you have set off too late.
you can not catch up because running faster makes kinetics that turn the boat faster.
practice without the kite getting this moment right and your foot work good
as you saw on the video clip sorting out as much as possible on the wire helps make the gybe easier like taking the slack out of the new sheet ect.
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Oatsandbeans
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jul 12 at 1:05pm |
Thanks, I'll give it a go and see how I get on. I like the idea of having three points of contact with the boat. I have found that some gybes with an over eager helm ( or maybe it was an excess of windward heel), that the g-force has been enough to chuck me (& the helm) out of the boat, not fast at all!
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