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    Posted: 30 May 12 at 6:26pm
I had my first sail in my Laser the other day in a force 3-4 and I had a bit of trouble getting it block-to-block. Was I not trying hard enough or should I upgrade the ratchet?

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The ratchet only helps you hold it not pull it on.

Perhaps more kicker would help.
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Remind us which rig please.

But default answer is just pull harder
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I'd go with Neptune. Assuming you are hiking hard then to get block to block you are going to be bending the rig by pulling in the mainsheet - unless you get something to bend the rig for you - which is the kicker.

When you have it pulled in as tight as you can reach forward and twang the kicker - how tight is it?

I my old days of (full-rig) sailing in those conditions I would go block to block, pull on the kicker so it is taut and then in just a bit more as the default (and marked) starting position.


Edited by timeintheboat - 31 May 12 at 7:04am
Like some other things - sailing is more enjoyable when you do it with someone else
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I'd check out the rope you are using, some are too thick and hold the water.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote EmmyC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 May 12 at 5:04pm
Thanks for the response guys.

I still have the old kicker (about as much use as a chocolate teapot), the Harken is on order - That may have played a large part in me not getting block-to-block. Also, my mainsheet has a tendancy to knot and tangle itself - Perhaps I should replace it ;)
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Most people use a 7mm mainsheet in a Laser these days.

It does take a reasonable amount of force to get it to go block to block so if you don't have XD style kicker assistance then you may struggle unless you are strong in the upper body department (or a gorilla like me).

The old kickers are useless so just concentrate on getting as much on as you can until your new one turns up.

Grippy gloves also help but you so tend to burn through them quickly.
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The other thing you can to is go above close hauled to reduce the force on the sail and crank the mainsheet on then lock the kicker off. Then come back down to a close hauled course. You need to do it pretty quickly though or the boat speed drops right off.

I use this technique when it gets to upper F5/F6 territory.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote EmmyC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 May 12 at 5:18pm
Thanks Jeffers - I did try that once or twice but I was far too slow and kept heading into wind quickly - I guess that may have to be something to perfect!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote laser193713 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 May 12 at 5:40pm
Which rig are you using? The 4.7 is easy to get to block to block with no kicker because of the bent mast, the radial is a little bit harder but because a large amount of the mast is top section which is really bendy it shouldn't be a problem. The full rig can be a bit hard if you aren't a gorilla! 

The kicker will help but don't get lazy and just use that to pull the boom down, it will bend the bottom of the mast far too much and flatten the sail and you will go slow. Best practice is to have the kicker on just so it isnt slack when it is about 10 knots of wind, then as it builds keep pulling and pulling to flatten the sail. 

An important thing to remember with your new kicker will be to let it off when you are sat around between races etc and to ease it enough on reaches and downwind.  If you don't do this you will find yourself bending a lot of top sections! 

As said, the most common mainsheets these days are about 7mm, rooster polylite or similar.  That said, when I finished lasers I was using a development version of the Laser red fleck mainsheet which is slightly under 6mm.  There were a number of versions of that sheet and if I remember rightly Paul Goodison took the yellow fleck version to the olympics where it was light wind, this was about 5.7mm there was a white fleck and a green fleck version too i think.  I quite liked the thin mainsheet but others would definitely disagree! If in doubt use the rooster 7mm sheet.
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