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Presuming Ed
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Topic: Rule 69 - where are the limits Posted: 29 May 12 at 2:04pm |
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AIUI The RYA can help out in situations like this, especially if there's a desire to avoid the politics... someone can come along, observe what's going on and then have quiet words. Not an actual interview without coffee, but indications that interviews without coffee can take place.... |
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Neptune
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 29 May 12 at 2:44pm | |
Have you ever shared the a race course with the Feva's on a windy day......pure filth...I think its because mum and dad are out of ear shot, not sure, they were having fun, but I found it slightly disturbing
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jeffers
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 29 May 12 at 2:48pm | |
That is not acceptable (IMO of course) and should be addressed. Perhaps in the briefing and then offenders spoken to. I appreciate that if no protest is raised then nothing can be done (I am not sure who can call a protest under rule 69, maybe the race committee). Part of the issue is that if this behavior is seen to be acceptable to younger sailors it will stay with them throughout their sailing life.
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Paul
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Presuming Ed
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 29 May 12 at 3:15pm | |
Anyone. And [Pedant hat] it's not actually a protest, it's a hearing[/ph] 69.1a) When a protest committee, from its own observation or a report received from any source, believes that a competitor may have committed a gross breach of a rule, good manners or sportsmanship, or may have brought the sport into disrepute, it may call a hearing. The protest committee shall promptly inform the competitor in writing of the alleged misconduct and of the time and place of the hearing. If the competitor provides good reason for being unable to attend the hearing, the protest committee shall reschedule it. Edited by Presuming Ed - 29 May 12 at 3:17pm |
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jeffers
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 29 May 12 at 4:17pm | |
Sounds like a case of stand on the shore and hand out notices to offenders then when it comes to the Feva fleet.
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Paul
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pondmonkey
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 29 May 12 at 4:21pm | |
del- double post
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pondmonkey
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 29 May 12 at 4:21pm | |
or have a word with their parents... does it need formal, officious intervention?
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r2d2
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 29 May 12 at 4:25pm | |
to be fair its not just the youngsters, I have probably heard worse from the Laser Womens Masters
standing on the shore near a mark on a light wind day can be quite 'surprising'
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Roger
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 29 May 12 at 5:12pm | |
Best course of action by far, embarassing the parents over their offsprings behaviour/language will ensure it doesn't happen again.
But make sure your not an offender or you'll look stupid.
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alstorer
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 29 May 12 at 6:02pm | |
if it's a big event, they may have daily briefings (and possibly debriefings!)- it may be possible to have a word with the RO or the squad coaches. On light wind days there is the issue of whether it is inter or intra boat communication- my helm and I swear like sailors at each other all the time, and most of the time it isn't even anger... but we don't swear at other boats (unless we lose self control- very rare). If I'm having a mare of hoisting/dropping the kite or generally being a donkey, I'll often be swearing profusely at myself. |
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