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winging it
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Topic: Think I might have found myself a boat 4 the lake Posted: 12 May 12 at 9:57pm |
perfect for whom? there will never be one boat to suit all tastes and all sizes. For me the contender is the pefect singlehander. It depends what you want and what you can handle.
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the same, but different...
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G.R.F.
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 12 May 12 at 10:31pm |
How much did the EPS retail for when it was around, and how much was the 300, strikes me there's a bit more going on with the EPS in build cost terms, but back then were they both built in the UK, or were the 300's coming from South America. It's a good looking boat, looks almost up to date, compare that to most dross that billy no mates are offered, I'll obviously have to reserve judgement til I've had a race or two in it, I still can't see how it could be quicker than a Blaze, but we'll see.
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JimC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 12 May 12 at 10:35pm |
Because all boats are a mass of horrible compromises between utterly incompatible design requirements... |
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Hughph
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 12 May 12 at 10:39pm |
GRF what happened to all your enthusiasm for a Farr 3.7?
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Kev M
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 12 May 12 at 10:46pm |
I doubt it is faster, AFAIK it's stuck with pretty much the PY it launched with because there aren't enough of them sailed to get the PY adjusted to what it should be. Admit it, you love it because it was designed by a French windsurfer (I think).
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Successfully confusing ambition with ability since 1980.
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G.R.F.
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 12 May 12 at 10:53pm |
Well clearly it wasn't designed by a Brit Dinghy Sailor which also answers your other question, since style, panache, are not exactly possessed by folk who think Solos, Streakers, Fireballs, Merlins, Lasers and all the other dross are OK to be seen dead (nearly) in.
But yes I do like it predominantly for its visual appeal, same as I did the ill fated RS100, another style over substance error for my circumstance. Edited by G.R.F. - 12 May 12 at 10:55pm |
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pondmonkey
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 12 May 12 at 10:55pm |
Yves Loday may well have windsurfed, but he's more famous for his catamaran sailing- including the Alinghi defence for AC33
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G.R.F.
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 12 May 12 at 11:00pm |
That'll maybe happen through next winter, a couple of us are planning a build, tbh it put me off a bit some old fashioned coffin builder boatyard adopting it and this fulfils that essential part of my purchasing decision, in fact most peoples purchasing decisions, it's available right now, i can be on the water next week. The Farr is another long wait, I'm done with that and bloody things keep going wrong and in need of constant fixing, i haven't actually raced hard all year other than on my board and I only have these things to race with, no other reason.
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ham4sand
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 13 May 12 at 12:07am |
*splutters* it looks like a really big toilet bowl with a mast |
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John Hamilton
cherub 2645 - cheese before bedtime cherub 3209 - anatidaephobia laser 176847 - kiss this |
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Late starter
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 13 May 12 at 1:13am |
EPS - sailed one for a season on our pond a while back. Good bits - lots of boat for the money, £1k will get you a reasonable one nowadays. Liked the rig, liked the kicker, and once you're sitting out on the racks pretty comfortable, way nicer than a Blaze IMHO. Bad bits - hopeless on PY (on my pond I struggled to stay ahead of standard rig Lasers on the water helmed by guys I'd usually expect to beat in my other boats). Very shallow cockpit, clobbered my 30 years of laser sailing knees, though to be fair many other modern classes do that too. And the racks dig in like crazy - this boat really needs to be sailed dead flat, so if you're a mid fleet sailor on a gusty small pond you really will struggle.
However, as a cheap beach boat - what value, and at the price they are now I'm half tempted to get one as a cheap blaster. As far as I can recall they were around £6k when new, but from what I hear Laser never made any money out of them as the build cost was so high. |
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