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ham4sand 
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 Posted: 06 Mar 12 at 11:58am |
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@nick peters
could we please have a definitive breakdown of weight in the 900?
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John Hamilton
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Ian29937
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Posted: 06 Mar 12 at 12:14pm |
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I think you are being a bit optimistic asking for that.... They are in the middle of a competitive selection process at the moment so I'd be very surprised if one of the manufacturers would give away much information at this time. We already know the hull is 55kg and all up wight 109kg.....
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JimC
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Posted: 06 Mar 12 at 12:17pm |
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I think it makes life easier if you don't tie yourself down to a published weight at least until you have a reasonably number of boats in service and have a good idea if anything needs to be beefed up or even lightened...
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getafix
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Posted: 06 Mar 12 at 12:20pm |
+1 although "optimistic" wasn't the word that came to mind originally! |
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Nick Peters
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Posted: 06 Mar 12 at 12:22pm |
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Designed crew weight - 110kg - 130kg. Although would work in real terms for upto 140kg. Fitted hull weight 55kg. Fitted wings 9kgs each. Sailing weight 109kgs. |
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getafix
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Posted: 06 Mar 12 at 12:26pm |
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Does anyone know if there are any criteria in place for bidders regarding total boat prices and spares costs? Would also be interesting to know if bidders have to provide some sort of model for supply of boats and parts geographically.
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ham4sand
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Posted: 06 Mar 12 at 12:27pm |
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Thanks! was mainly wondering the wing weights!
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John Hamilton
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BarnsieB14768
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Posted: 07 Mar 12 at 8:35am |
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Interestingly hull weight less than the B14 but all up weight a bit more. So edging on the side of caution to get reliability which is not a bad thing. B14 hull rigged with pole 63.5 kg and all up weight including 8.5 kg of lead (carbon wing eqaulisation to alloy wing, placed equally in 4 parts at the outboard end of the struts) approx 104 - 106 kg depending on ropes and tramps used. B14 now has proven reliability and can be sailed by the right team up to 35 mph winds but a real handful downwind in short seas as shown at the Steamer this year (but no swims in 788) where we had to back off as going airborne on a regular basis.
Looks like all the short list should be fun and shame we did not have one at Weymouth. The 3 main contenders would all do the girls proud. Nick/Chris/Richard one last question, what is the upwind and downwind areas for the Rebel, RS 900 and Aura and overall widths (righting moments). Think that will tell us more. Await replies with interest. |
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Richard20Sailing
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Posted: 07 Mar 12 at 2:30pm |
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The RS 900 looks a lovely boat. Is the 800 fleet/class not concerned that if it is adopted and marketed then nobody will buy an 800 again?
 I personally prefer the Aura as it is looks about the right level of challenge needed and is a more up to date design. I only prey they don't choose the 29erXX as it is a compromise to far.
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Nick Peters
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Posted: 07 Mar 12 at 2:56pm |
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The RS900 is 2900mm wide, and has 18m2 of fore and aft - over 6 in the jib, and the kite is 27m2 - from memory, may vary by the odd minor decimal.
If the RS900 is selected then it will go the way of all other Olympics boats - of course 49ers are sailed at clubs, but it is a boat designed for guys. How many girl teams or very light couples would be interested outside of an olympic campaign? My guess is not enough to make a active domestic class.
If the RS900 is not selected then it is our intention that it will NOT be launched as a new class.
Therefore the RS800 class need not be concerned - indeed I think it will benefit from continued interest from the girls as more are tempted into high performance sailing perhaps to find that an Olympic campaign is both a huge commitment and expense and it is more fun and sociable to sail in a strong domestic fleet - perhaps sailing with a boyfriend or husband.
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