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Post Options Post Options   Quote Contender443 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jan 12 at 3:11pm
Originally posted by Jon711

Originally posted by rogue

VHF radio- simples


Now, you mean as I suggested a page ago??? It appears great minds think alike, some just take longer to get there .

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Not so simples if the club uses a private channel as our club does. Also we don't start using the radio until the rescue boat is on the water.
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VHF radio- simples
Now, you mean as I suggested a page ago??? It appears great minds think alike, some just take longer to get there . Jon


Not so simples if the club uses a private channel as our club does. Also we don't start using the radio until the rescue boat is on the water.


Have you checked on the legality of using a private channel?? All clubs should be using Ch37 (M1) or M2? These channels are available on all handhelds and standalones...

If you are using something different, then in a major problem, the RNLI may not be able to contact you. Has a risk assessment been done on using a different frequency to the rest of the sailing world??

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If you are using something different, then in a major problem, the RNLI may not be able to contact you.
When you're on a pond in the middle of England the RNLI only contact you for money!


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Contender443 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Jan 12 at 9:19am
I am sure we have checked with Ofcom and/or the RYA. Not sure as I have not been fully involved. They are also tuned to the private channel by a commercial company. One reason I think we use  this is because most of our members do not hold a valid VHF licence and it is not needed for a private channel.
 
We can still contact the RNLI using the other channels you mention as they are not blocked in any way. Despite being a sea sailing club we still only use a very small area of water.
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They are also tuned to the private channel by a commercial company. One reason I think we use  this is because most of our members do not hold a valid VHF licence and it is not needed for a private channel.

You don't need a personal VHF licence to use CH37, though you do need a boat licence.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jon711 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Jan 12 at 11:48am
Originally posted by PeterG

<span style="text-align: left; : rgb251, 251, 253; ">They are also tuned to the private channel by a commercial company. One reason I think we use  this is because most of our members do not hold a valid VHF licence and it is not needed for a private channel.</span>

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<span style="text-align: left; : rgb251, 251, 253; ">You don't need a personal VHF licence to use CH37, though you do need a boat licence.</span>


You are correct, to a degree... If you do use channel 37, then by law you must have a licence,or be supervised by someone who has...

But we are talking about a private channel, and we do not know for sure, that we are discussing VHF..... Although, I suspect we are....

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If you do use channel 37, then by law you must have a licence,or be supervised by someone who has... 

Ofcom think differently:

Channels M and M2 (157.850 and 161.425 MHz) are simplex channels. As these channels are not international channels, users need not hold a Maritime Radio Operators' Certificate of Competence and Authority to Operate .

I know we were talking about private channels, though I do accept that I assumed that we were talking about VHF (I suspect correctly). My point was that there is no certification advantage in not using Ch37 - it's intended for exactly this sort of purpose, and is more likely to be monitored by the RNLI than a private one (which was what was being discussed above), and less likely to lead you into interesting legal issues about bandwidth use.

The issue you face in either case is what do you do when an uncertified crew are on a motor boat, as if frequently the case for us, and a serious emergency arises. Our view is that if they need to use Ch16 they should and they or the Club are unlikely to face sanction if they do in that situation. Thankfully, we've never had to test this out! 
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