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RoundTheBow
Newbie Joined: 24 Nov 11 Location: Southampton Online Status: Offline Posts: 15 |
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Topic: RS 100 or RS 300 or .. Posted: 24 Nov 11 at 5:02pm |
I have owned Lark, Laser, Ent, 470. Have sailed on asymetrics and cats. Weigh 70Kg.
Now cosidering the next single hander to move to. Things to consider: 1. Quick but not extreme 2. Quick to rig and get on the road trailer 3. Good community / nationals scene 4. Good resale market 5. Good in the usual Southampton Water chop (unlike me in my ol' Laser ).Liking the idea of a kite to play with as per the RS 100, but I think it would be a pain in short leg courses compared to the single sail of say an RS 300. |
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Rockhopper
Really should get out more Joined: 16 Nov 07 Location: Eastry Online Status: Offline Posts: 642 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Nov 11 at 5:34pm |
300 is cheaper and holds it value or do you want a 100 costing a lot more money but again seems to be holding it value but they seem slow to sell on
Me i have had a 300 it was brill and i think everyone should have one or have a go in one at least once in there lives
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Retired now after 35 seasons in a row and time for a rest.
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Ruscoe
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Nov 11 at 6:15pm |
The 300 really is one of the best boats i have ever owned. Its so rewarding, fast and the open circuit is great. The chaps are all really friendly and i have not once heard of an argument and certainly not a protest. The 300 offers super value as well, you will need to pay £3k for a boat but they never seem to loose value, so £ for £ probably the best value racing out there.
I have never sailed a 100 so i cant comment. but there always seems a few for sale, they seem to of reached a level in terms of price at the moment (around £6k)
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laser193713
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Nov 11 at 6:42pm |
I would say the 100 is harder to sail fast in a chop than a laser, or at least a lot harder work to sail fast. Also at 70kgs you may struggle in any breeze without the new 7.4m sail. They are awesome boats, and i would say that coz i own one, but to sail them at any reasonable level you really do have to work the boat very hard! The 300 is a bit less of a muscle boat and rewards technique more than hard hiking. It is also a bit faster than an 8.4 rigged 100 in most breeze.
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doeywizard
Posting king Joined: 16 Jun 10 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 150 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Nov 11 at 6:49pm |
never sailed eather but from what I hear you may struggle in a 100 in any strong breeze and they are a boat you will perfect swimming in before they go fast, the 300 is less weight orientated but more technical and needs to be sailed with that in mind all the time, it is the technical sailors that will be best rewarded,
If I am wrong this is only what I have heard
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haroosh
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Nov 11 at 10:32pm |
I'm under 70kgs and having sailed moths in the past I like sailing the 300 but for me the 100 has it simply because it's got a kite. I sail the 8.4 rig and didnt even bother buyingnthenlarger 10.2. Downwind the 100 is a superb boat and gives you the true asymmetric feeling in a single handler.
It's also a very easy and quick boat to rig. If you can afford it then it seems to meet all your criteria. You should go and get a go in a demo boat. I'm sure you'll be impressed.... Cheers, Keith.
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Keith
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JimC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Nov 11 at 11:01pm |
I think the first thing you should do is borrow a kite rigged singlehander and have a good play and see if its a game you want to play... When you've found that out the choice is easy, but if you don't know that the choice is impossible.
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rogue
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Nov 11 at 11:18pm |
+1 on Jim... the two are chalky and cheese, try before you buy.
If you've got local windward / leeward racing or your plan to travel, get the 100. If you want a boat for round the cans sailing then get the 300. At 70kgs you'll fly in the 8.4 RS100 rig, but you'll be surprised how deep the angles are offwind- it simply won't hold its sub 1000 handicap if you can't use the kite, in fact the 300 is faster upwind and in single sail reaching. |
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ASok
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 25 Nov 11 at 8:07am |
We have a small but enthusiastic Vareo fleet at Netley and they seem to cope with the Southampton Water conditions. I'm not sure that the club 'round the cans' courses suit them, but they turn out often enough so cant be that bad.
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dics
Far too distracted from work Joined: 05 Oct 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 317 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 25 Nov 11 at 12:42pm |
Re the question. If you want an RS boat I (kind of) undertsatnd your question but that is where any similarities stop. You need to see what type of tactical sailing you want to do. Then that will either push you down the assymetric route of the non-assymetric route. Otherwise your question is like comparing a MPS with a Contender. You can not do it. Everything is different from the top of the mast to the bottom of the dagger/board. |
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