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maxibuddah
Really should get out more Joined: 06 Mar 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1760 |
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Topic: Laser - New Standard Sail and Carbon Top Section Posted: 16 Nov 11 at 7:24am |
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you what ? laser sails were always naff and only lasted about 6 months if you sailed hard and the xd kit wasn't invented back then, and then of course the sail went from 3.2 to 3.8 ounce material which made little difference to the longevity at all |
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Everything I say is my opinion, honest
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Dougal
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Nov 11 at 8:53am | ||||
And changing the first number (or two) on the sail to red didn't make them last any longer either. |
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alstorer
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Nov 11 at 9:43am | ||||
There's actually a rule that sail numbers should be no more than four digits (Appendix G, rule G1.1 (c) ). however, that doesn't apply to Lasers, as they're a pre-1997 ISAF International class. As a digression, what does ISAF expect an International or Recognised class to do if it reaches number 9999, especially if early boats are still sailing? Presumably thge rule doesn't really affect the laser 2000, as it isn't an International class and the leading 2 isn't really part of the number.
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laser193713
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Nov 11 at 11:05am | ||||
Try getting 6 months out of a laser sail these days... I used to just have 1 sail that was my event sail and nothing else, open meetings didnt justify that sail even. Using that sail only in qualifiers, nationals etc it would just about last a year. For club racing and training i had a sail which was really quite dead and then in the middle i had a sail that was suitable for opens. These 3 sails got relegated every time I bought a new one which was at least once a year. Perhaps it all depends on what you define as a sails racing life...
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bustinben
Far too distracted from work Joined: 15 Oct 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 288 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Nov 11 at 10:31pm | ||||
Yup, I'm getting through 2 event sails a season. That's qualifiers, two europa cups, worlds, and maybe 2-3 opens. Some people get away with only one sail, but they're quicker than me so don't need the boost We're using windsurfer levels of cunningham on dacron sails and after 3 events the leech is a mess. That I can abide though, because we're pushing the limits of what the sail was designed to do for the sake of performance. If you want to save your sail, you can use less and just pinch a bit. If you've got awesome downwind speed you can still do ok! The masts are a different story however, and will come back bent after a couple of hours practising your roll tacks in 8-10 knots. It's a real sore point with the sailors at the moment imo.
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laser193713
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Nov 11 at 10:51pm | ||||
I never had such a problem with bent masts to be honest, I made very sure that as soon as i was finished in any races or if i was just sat alongside a rib during training that my kicker was fully off. I still believe this is why i never had a problem with bent masts. Obviously a few went but the cost of a new top section is nothing compared to over a grand for a new carbon stick for a development boat or even the 100! Also a broken mast in a laser when insured with noble normally leads to a very quick and easy replacement of both sail and mast.
The quality of the masts is getting worse though i think, I also used to drill out and replace the standard rivet where the masts tend to break. Doing this i could insulate the mast from the rivet which definitely stopped the corrosion. I couldnt find anything in the rules at the time to stop this and never got any trouble for it at any of the big events i went to. However, i did once get asked to remove a retaining line that i put round the rear mainsheet block on the boom because i had some dangerously loose rivets, it wasnt doing anything to pull the block closer to the boom or anything. I argued that if it were to fail i may have required safety assistance but the measurer decided that because if it failed i would be able to continue racing which would have given me an advantage it was illegal. If it comes to the point where you aren't allowed to improve the reliability and even safety of the boat without improving its performance it just starts to get a bit silly! Things like this in the laser class eventually drove me to leave the class and i havent looked back since!
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I luv Wight
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Nov 11 at 9:04am | ||||
Not just a new topmast...
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rogue
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Nov 11 at 9:36am | ||||
isn't that the Hansen Aerospace sail- feck all to do with Global Sailing or LPE?
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Stargazey
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Nov 11 at 9:19pm | ||||
Fully battoned mylar sail, carbon rig, old Ian Bruce designed hull to keep costs down for those with the old style rig ... that'll be the Byte CII then?
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bustinben
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 25 Nov 11 at 8:20am | ||||
That guy has got far too much board out the water... it's going to end in tears!
Rig looks a bit out of place too.
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