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robinft
Far too distracted from work Joined: 18 Jun 04 Location: Thorpe Bay YC Online Status: Offline Posts: 252 |
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Topic: Laser - New Standard Sail and Carbon Top Section Posted: 15 Nov 11 at 2:28pm |
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On the slipway using two hands, possibly. One handed after rounding the leeward mark in a blow, never! |
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Laser number 9
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Hengest
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 15 Nov 11 at 2:29pm | ||
Rooster started on their way to an alternative, http://www.roostersailing.com/wordpress/?cat=1&paged=2 it seems to have lost momentum now though
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jeffers
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 15 Nov 11 at 2:48pm | ||
This is because they are now in stage 2 of development. That combined with Steve having been ill recently things have slowed down.
He has given a few hints that things are still progressing.
I for one will be interested to see if he pulls it off, that combined with wanting a test sail ASAP.....
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Paul
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fudheid
Far too distracted from work Joined: 21 Apr 11 Location: 51.53 N 01.28 E Online Status: Offline Posts: 241 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 15 Nov 11 at 3:12pm | ||
the sails are in pretty good shape considering they are 'club' sails which is as good as giving them to a sailing school to bugger up (one x 1hr race a wee. The better radial is still up there winning races (in the right hands) mind most of the club sailors tend to think sails should last 20 years like the good old cotton ones These are Hydes and i guess since they are manufacturers of the original they had a pretty good start point for improvement - although not hard with a 3.8oz cross cut potato sack. Trying to remember now if one had 4 battens - not sure, will have to wait till next year now we are softies and stop sailing when it gets below 15C
Peter White (ex rondar, ex hydes, ex everything, 505 leg end) was working with them and got them donated! usually their donations came because someone had messed - bad finishing or wrong logos etc. Seems these are first run protos - one of them is pretty poor apparently with the other almost being fought over on our first come first served! haha glad i sail it very very rarely! |
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only me from over the sea...... |
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2547
Really should get out more Joined: 11 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1151 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 15 Nov 11 at 4:28pm | ||
I think it was easier from in the boat actually as you just dropped the tiller for a moment and sort of threw yourself over the boom; one hand on the boom bouncing it down the other pulling the kicker on ... Loads of booms used to snap before they were sleeved. Current sails are very poor ... why does it take so long to fix what is so obviously very fragile by design. |
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Dougal
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 15 Nov 11 at 5:13pm | ||
Except you then have the main pinned in as hard as possible, your weight in the centre of the boat and you have let go of the tiller...... You are right on the booms snapping though. Edited by Dougal - 15 Nov 11 at 5:16pm |
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Rupert
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 15 Nov 11 at 5:27pm | ||
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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laser193713
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 15 Nov 11 at 6:12pm | ||
Does it really make you wonder? The Harken XD kit, less so the holt stuff, is in a completely different league to the old kit! It has allowed lighter sailors to progress into the laser due to the ability to depower so easily which makes them more money in boat sails. Plus it allows them to sell some decent kit at massively inflated prices. Its a no brainer isnt it? I do however think half the reason why the sails last such a short amount of time these days is because the loads going through them now are so much higher than they used to be. Could it be that by updating a small part of the boat (the control lines) they have made another (the sail) look even more outdated than it seemed before?
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rogue
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 15 Nov 11 at 7:06pm | ||
ISAF, ILCA, RYA... all representative bodies who are only empowered because we elect for it be that way.
The fundamental reason why the laser is so out dated yet remains popular with decades of unchallenge 'known issues' is because you, we, our media and other influencers allow it to be so... Doesn't say much for 'dinghy sailors' does it...? (someone's been saying this of sorts for 4 years or so on here) No wonder only a complete maverick would dare challenge that entrenched, moth ball of a market. Rather him than me, I doubt there's much ROI in that game. Edited by rogue - 15 Nov 11 at 7:07pm |
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Rupert
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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