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rogue 
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 Topic: Laser - New Standard Sail and Carbon Top SectionPosted: 15 Nov 11 at 8:56am |
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corrected that for you... |
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bustinben
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Posted: 15 Nov 11 at 6:55am |
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Alas the quality comes from the fact that it's the mens/womens olympic singlehander, so it's up to isaf. Aside from the equipment issue I think it's an excellent boat however. Very easy to sail, but very difficult to sail fast. There is no tuning cheat sheet that will give you boatspeed in a laser. It's also slow enough to make downwind wavesailing extremely interesting. Most of the time your boat wants to be going slightly slower than the waves, but if you can get it to jump on the escalator, and then start skipping down the steps...
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SoggyBadger
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Posted: 14 Nov 11 at 10:42pm |
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The quality of racing depends more on the people than the equipment. If you all moved en mass from the Laser to another class which has better build quality you'd still get the same standard of racing as you'd take the quality with you. Edited by SoggyBadger - 14 Nov 11 at 10:42pm |
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Best wishes from deep in the woods
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bustinben
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Posted: 14 Nov 11 at 10:29pm |
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Everyone knows it - but there's nothing else that offers the same quality of racing so people put up with it I guess (me included).
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Contender443
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Posted: 14 Nov 11 at 9:31pm |
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Sorry Ben you have just made the Laser look even more ridiculous, shame really as I can see the concept of simple boats and class racing. However if the equipment is not up to the forces put on it such that it makes the equipment out of class that is either good salesmanship or fraud.
Guess why I and most other sailors do not sail Lasers.
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bustinben
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Posted: 14 Nov 11 at 7:30pm |
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also note that not all measured regattas have supplied boats... radial men, for example. Or masters events.
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bustinben
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Posted: 14 Nov 11 at 7:29pm |
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...Because the class rules say: "Straight mast". You should be able to change to another one if it bends by going to see the measurer. I'm not sure what the situation would be if they were checking straightness on measuring in, but then refused to let you change a bent one... If they did start enforcing it properly, then yes, it would be a ridiculous. But more ridiculous than having to ignore the class rules because the kit simply isn't up to the job? I'm not sure. What we have at the moment is the real situation where you have to buy a new bottom section (and a top, if you're unable to fully straighten it, which drastically reduces its life as well) for every regatta where you know they're going to be measuring properly.
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maxibuddah
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Posted: 14 Nov 11 at 1:44pm |
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strange thing for me was that I never broke a top section, only bent them, but I did break two bottom sections at deck level where the tube wore against the gelcoat. I'm pretty sure I managed to get the boom as tight with my crappy rope version with a swivel at the bottom as you can with an xd version, its just that it cost me about £150 less.
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jeffers
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Posted: 14 Nov 11 at 12:39pm |
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I think you will find only the boom is sleeved. The top and bottom sections for all rigs are just straight tubes with no edditional reinforcement.
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Paul
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rogue
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Posted: 14 Nov 11 at 11:48am |
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I've broken three top sections and one boom in the past, everytime it's a c*nt a situation as it inevitably means you've f**ked your luff section, which unlike the top section, you won't get Noble to give you a nice shiny new one, it'll be patched and that's another rag fubared...
... this of course was back in the 1990's when I used a 386 PC, made mixtapes from recordings off the radio and drank cider as alcopops hadn't been invented. So I guess this known issue has been resolved now. |
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