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Originally posted by rogue


But it's an internet survey, what's the point if you can't manipulate the results when they are not to your liking?


LOL this is true but there is some sense in there Wink
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Ok that is enough monkeying around ... I have deleted all the single class responses (obese goons) and the dipstick who responded 10 to all classes ...

here y'all go ...

Rank Class Score Number of responses
1 Laser 9.08 38
2 International 14 8.6 40
3 International Moth 8.51 37
4 505 8.5 38
5 RS200 8.48 33
6 Merlin Rocket 8.42 45
7 Finn 8.33 40
8 Laser Radial 8.3 27
9 Laser SB3 8.3 27
10 49er 8.28 32
11 Fireball 8.16 31
12 Solo 8.13 32
13 Musto Skiff 8.06 33
14 Optimist 8.04 26
15 OK 7.92 24
16 XOD 7.87 23
17 18ft Skiff 7.78 27
18 Phantom 7.64 33
19 Dragon 7.52 21
20 National 12 7.5 36
21 29er 7.44 27
22 Flying Fifteen 7.43 28
23 GP14 7.4 30
24 RS400 7.39 31
25 420 7.39 28
26 Contender 7.38 29
27 RS800 7.37 30
28 Melges 24 7.36 22
29 Cadet 7.33 21
30 Tornado 7.29 21
31 Topper 7.2 25
32 Enterprise 7.19 36
33 Etchells 7.15 20
34 Scorpion 7.14 29
35 Mirror 6.93 28
36 Firefly 6.84 31
37 B14 6.83 30
38 J/24 6.82 17
39 International Canoe 6.81 21
40 J80 6.71 21
41 IRC 6.65 17
42 Lark 6.6 30
43 A Class Catamaran 6.47 15
44 Formula 18 6.44 18
45 2.4m 6.33 18
46 RS300 6.3 33
47 Squib 6.26 19
48 Quarter Tonner 6.21 19
49 Laser 4.7 6.13 24
50 Sigma 38 6.06 17
51 RS100 5.88 33
52 J109 5.81 16
53 Sigma 33 5.75 16
54 Wayfarer 5.71 24
55 Albacore 5.69 29
56 J105 5.69 16
57 RS Feva 5.67 24
58 International Six Metre 5.59 17
59 Dart 18 5.57 14
60 Sonar 5.47 17
61 Laser 2000 5.45 29
62 RS700 5.41 27
63 Norfolk Punt 5.41 17
64 K6 5.4 20
65 Spitfire 5.33 12
66 Redwing 5.33 15
67 Hurricane 5.9 SX 5.27 15
68 RS600 5.27 26
69 MOCRA 5.27 15
70 RC Laser 5.26 19
71 Blaze 5.19 31
72 Sonata 5.19 16
73 Streaker 5.13 24
74 Marblehead 5.11 18
75 Osprey 5.08 24
76 Cherub 5.08 25
77 One Metre 5.07 15
78 Thames A Rater 5.05 21
79 RS500 5 28
80 Snipe 4.93 15
81 Shadow 4.93 15
82 J/92 and J/92s 4.88 17
83 Flying Dutchman 4.86 22
84 RS Tera 4.81 21
85 K1 4.7 23
86 Scow 4.67 12
87 RS Elite 4.65 23
88 Sharpie 4.64 14
89 Sunbeam 4.6 15
90 Salcombe Yawl 4.5 16
91 Unicorn 4.47 17
92 British Moth 4.38 24
93 Tasar 4.36 22
94 Sprint 15 4.33 18
95 Topper 4.2 4.33 18
96 Laser 4000 4.29 28
97 Miracle 4.28 25
98 Illusion 4.28 18
99 Swallow 4.28 18
100 Graduate 4.26 23
101 Impala 28 4.24 17
102 Sprint 15 Sport 4.2 15
103 Shearwater 4.15 13
104 Vortex 4.12 25
105 RS Vareo 4.08 26
106 Europe 4.08 24
107 Dart 16 4.08 13
108 Hornet 4.05 21
109 National 18 4 19
110 707 4 16
111 Lightning 368 3.92 25
112 Javelin 3.9 21
113 Folkboat 3.88 16
114 Kestrel 3.75 24
115 Devon Yawl 3.67 15
116 Supernova 3.63 24
117 Catapult 3.6 15
118 Challenger 3.59 17
119 Access 3.57 14
120 Solution 3.56 27
121 Seascape 18 3.55 11
122 Ajax 3.47 15
123 Laser 5000 3.46 28
124 Hunter Formula One 3.43 14
125 Tempest 3.4 15
126 Yachting World Dayboat 3.38 16
127 Comet Trio 3.37 19
128 3000 3.16 25
129 Loch Long One Design 3.13 16
130 Laser Vago 3.05 22
131 Comet 3 18
132 Splash 3 17
133 Tideway 2.92 13
134 Sandhopper 2.88 17
135 Wanderer 2.83 18
136 Buzz 2.77 26
137 SigneT 2.73 15
138 Laser Stratos 2.72 25
139 ISO 2.7 27
140 Heron 2.5 20
141 Leader 2.36 22
142 Laser EPS 1.93 27

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142 National Champions in the UK from this list alone... and to think I wouldn't stand a chance of being top 3 in any of them, how sh*t am I
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Originally posted by rogue

btw- seamonkies are not stupid, they just haven't heard of dynamically assigned IP addresses by rebooting your router*

or rerouting through proxies, or shuffling round Pcs in the hot desk area at the offiice or, or , or...
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Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by rogue

btw- seamonkies are not stupid, they just haven't heard of dynamically assigned IP addresses by rebooting your router*

or rerouting through proxies, or shuffling round Pcs in the hot desk area at the offiice or, or , or...


yeah, yeah, yeah ... if people wish to go to such lengths then they deserve their extra script but most people are not so sad as to do that ... but then again y'all are dinghy sailors. Wink

On the whole, now all the single class 10's have been deleted, I think y'll have a pretty fair ranking based on people perceptions ...

So where can I buy an EPS?


Edited by seamonkey - 07 Oct 11 at 10:59am
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Originally posted by seamonkey



So where can I buy an EPS?


Pretty cheap 2nd hand, will chew you up and spit you out in big breezes, and I've love to see just how far behind the leaders you are by the top mark.

If you want to know how good sailors in various classes are, borrow a boat and go sailing with them. Everything else is pure internet twaddle.
 
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Laser one is an interesting one.....surely it depends on whether the squad sailors are there or not.
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Originally posted by Neptune

Laser one is an interesting one.....surely it depends on whether the squad sailors are there or not.
 
Agreed, but if you think the UK Nationals is (usually) one of the qualifying events you can compete is to get a Euros or Worlds berth (IIRC) then the top guys usually attend.
 
Last year the UK Nats were held the same time as one of the major international events, thus the top guys were not present (they had 37 entries that year instead of numbers into the hundreds).
 
Still one of the hardest to win IMO along with any class where the boat is tunable to the individual sailor through mast/sail/hull selection.
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Originally posted by rogue

 

btw- seamonkies are not stupid, they just haven't heard of dynamically assigned IP addresses by rebooting your router* down there in deepest, darkest Kent.

* sorry, redialing your 56k modem

I'm really worried about you, you're on your third ID that I know of for certain, and not only are you now talking to yourself, you're trying to convince others that one of you is me.

Now, you need help, step away from the keyboard son and we'll get this nice nurse to check you out.


I've asked her to warm the electrodes.



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Originally posted by jeffers

Originally posted by Neptune

Laser one is an interesting one.....surely it depends on whether the squad sailors are there or not.
 
Agreed, but if you think the UK Nationals is (usually) one of the qualifying events you can compete is to get a Euros or Worlds berth (IIRC) then the top guys usually attend.
 
Last year the UK Nats were held the same time as one of the major international events, thus the top guys were not present (they had 37 entries that year instead of numbers into the hundreds).
 
Still one of the hardest to win IMO along with any class where the boat is tunable to the individual sailor through mast/sail/hull selection.
 
 
UK laser nationals is not linked to squad/world/euro qualification at all (at least for the adults) so the top guys don't necessarily attend, unless its a good venue and doesn't clash with something else.
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