Beach Boat Recommendations

   Hi there. I am based at the moment in Belgium and have been sailing a Laser off the beach for the last 2 years. I am looking at something a lot more exciting that can be sailed singlehanded but can also take the battering from the waves in the big winds.

Very shallow sand beach so hard grounding is inevitable in big winds when coming back in. The laser can take this anyone got any ideas what else is tough.

I like the look of the Moth but my feeling is it will break quickly. Cats are around everywhere but are almost all difficult singlehanded. I have been out on a few and really like the wire so a monohull that can be sailed singlehanded on a wire is perfect.

I am 6ft 2, 85kg (13 odd stone) so any thoughts would be great.

At the moment the Vortex is looking nice.

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AndyMM Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 17 Jun 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6	Post Options Post Reply Quote AndyMM Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Beach Boat Recommendations Posted: 17 Jun 05 at 10:16pm
	Hi there. I am based at the moment in Belgium and have been sailing a Laser off the beach for the last 2 years. I am looking at something a lot more exciting that can be sailed singlehanded but can also take the battering from the waves in the big winds. Very shallow sand beach so hard grounding is inevitable in big winds when coming back in. The laser can take this anyone got any ideas what else is tough. I like the look of the Moth but my feeling is it will break quickly. Cats are around everywhere but are almost all difficult singlehanded. I have been out on a few and really like the wire so a monohull that can be sailed singlehanded on a wire is perfect. I am 6ft 2, 85kg (13 odd stone) so any thoughts would be great. At the moment the Vortex is looking nice.

Jack Sparrow Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 08 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2965	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jack Sparrow Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 17 Jun 05 at 10:37pm
	Contender
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Wave Rider Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 27 Oct 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 909	Post Options Post Reply Quote Wave Rider Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 17 Jun 05 at 10:46pm
	Int contender, rs600/700 mps Blaze?
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AndyMM Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 17 Jun 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6	Post Options Post Reply Quote AndyMM Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jun 05 at 9:04am
	Thanks for the thoughts, I love the look of the contender but they seem to be in very short supply secondhand. The RS700 is one I had already looked at. and there seem to be plenty around. I might wait and see if a Nice Contender comes up. Andy

Phil eltringham Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: England/Hitchin Online Status: Offline Posts: 1105	Post Options Post Reply Quote Phil eltringham Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jun 05 at 10:44am
	600, MPS etc are good, but if you are worried about hitting the beach then have a look at the spirint 15 (ex dart 15) similar performance, trapeeze option, no daggerboard to distroy on the bottom, and the rudders kick up too. Plenty of very good boats going second hand at very reasonable prices. Not sure how much new ones are exactly but I doubt they will be more than MPS/700s are going for second hand.
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Jack Sparrow Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 08 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2965	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jack Sparrow Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jun 05 at 11:00am
	Yep I'd agree with Dart 15 / Sprint 15.
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Jalani Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 03 May 05 Location: Great Britain Online Status: Offline Posts: 164	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jalani Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jun 05 at 3:15pm
	Dart 15 or the 'new' Hobie 'Twixxy' - awful name but really strong twin trapeze 14ft trainer cat with spinnaker! Easily sailed by two kids or one adult. No boards and super strong kick up Hobie rudders.

AndyMM Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 17 Jun 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6	Post Options Post Reply Quote AndyMM Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jun 05 at 5:54pm
	I had looked at Cats, they are everywhere but if I want them I can rent them for 35 Euros an hour. What I really want is a monohull that is extreme, the RS700 or the Contender look like top of the heap at the moment. I am not worried about foils, daggerboards etc as this I am used to with the Laser, it is more the boat itself surfing in on the waves then being dropped on the beach that is the problem. I have tried all sorts of landing including deliberate capsizing but the Laser still winds up being bare Fibreglass by the end of the season :-)

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	Bloody hell i thikn ur better off with a vision mate ! Not many performace baots will survive many drops on a pebble beach!
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Jack Sparrow Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 08 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2965	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jack Sparrow Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jun 05 at 10:18pm
	Sounds like you should get your self an old MX Ray. Not a trap boat but it has a kite and goes like stink. And has similar strength properties to a laser in the hull and foils.
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