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ASok
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Topic: Waiting for the stragglers? Posted: 07 Jul 10 at 1:47pm |
Yes, but if you're on a coastal club where people have been to great lengths to set start times depending on tide availability and people still can't be on time, then I think the RO should just start and leave people out. An attitute of 'the start will slip, so we can leave it an extra 10mins' just gets worse and worse. On the other hand there is nothing more frustrating than the RO not getting to the start and set up at the published time
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bawbag
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Jul 10 at 3:22pm |
you can always request redress if you don't make the start because of the race committees actions , as would the case of them not leaving sufficient time from launching to start time to get there in the prevailing conditions
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JimC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Jul 10 at 4:17pm |
I submit that should be a policy decision for the club AGM, not an individual RO making rules on the fly though. If the majority of the sailors want to start late and have a short race then why on earth shouldn't they... Who are we running the races for? |
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gordon
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Jul 10 at 5:31pm |
Redress can only be granted to a boat who's score has been made worse "through no fault of her own".
I would suggest that the RO can get his redress in first by delaying the start when he judges that the competitors are not at fault for arriving late. For instance, I sail out of a tidal harbour. Predictions of the time at which boat's can launch are not always accurate... On the other hand one race officer went out, started first race on time, waited 4 minutes, noted that there were no starters so closed the line. He did the same for the second and third races and went back to harbour. There he found a few competitors rigging their boats (nearly an hour after scheduled time of first gun)... Next time he was RO boats were on time. Gordon |
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SymBoy
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Jul 10 at 12:55pm |
For open events it can always be difficult to predict how
long it is going to take to launch and get to the start area, especially if it is your first visit, so a little bit of latitude is needed. Perhaps during pre-race briefing, a bit of advice should be given by RO. For club racing there is little excuse. What would help would be an earlier warning signal (10-15 minutes before) as reminder that "this race is on time". If I hear the first hoot whilst in the changing rooms, I know I may as well sit out the first race.... However, at my club I have heard more complaints about the racing being started on time than late. |
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Late starter
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 Jul 10 at 5:10pm |
More often than not common sense will point the way. Competitors are sometimes inclined to wait til they see the RO and team go out to the start. So if I'm on duty I make sure that me and my team are in place a few minutes early. Not rocket science, but more often than not it works!
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Stefan Lloyd
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 Jul 10 at 5:19pm |
The racing is run for the benefit of the competitors. If a significant proportion are late, there's usually a reason for it. Postpone. This argument applies when the start line is a significant sailing time away from the launch, not from a club line. |
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