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Triv McCarlie
Newbie Joined: 27 May 10 Location: Northampton Online Status: Offline Posts: 7 |
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Topic: The Expense of it! Posted: 27 May 10 at 4:53pm |
As you guys may or may not know I've never sailed, which is ever so slightly embarrassing as I'm the new Website Manager at P&B! So I started looking into it all and was a bit stunned to find out how much lessons and tasters etc cost. Luckily for me I've got lots of willing people here who are going to take me out but I thought it was quite expensive, is there a way in for the more strapped for cash or is it just not done to be broke and admit it in sailing ????
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JohnW
Really should get out more Joined: 17 Jul 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 552 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 May 10 at 5:24pm |
Lots of clubs have open days or free taster sessions to attract new members. As for learning to sail the most common way these days is to do an RYA level 1&2 course. Again many clubs offer these courses to members at rates that are below the rates charged by commercial operations. The alternative is to offer to crew, at club level there are often people looking for crews who are quite happy to train up an enthusiastic novice.
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JimC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 May 10 at 5:40pm |
If you do it all formally then it can get quite pricey, but there are always options...
For instance my club does informal training sessions for non members on Tuesday evenings for a fiver an evening. No certificates or anything because its informal, and that's also how we keep the price down but provided folks do most of the evenings then they are at a level where they can get in a boat and sail in reasonable conditions. From there they can join the club and rent club boats and learn more through more club training or spend the money on training courses safe in the knowledge that they actually like sailing and it won't be money wasted. Alternatively of course they may find they don't like sailing and walk away without having spent a load of cash... |
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Rockhopper
Really should get out more Joined: 16 Nov 07 Location: Eastry Online Status: Offline Posts: 642 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 May 10 at 6:20pm |
At our club i think once you are a member the courses i think are free not sure but i know we run training sessions once a month Broadstairs sc is our club |
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Adam MR 1137
Posting king Joined: 10 Feb 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 114 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 May 10 at 6:23pm |
At my club I help organise informal training which is free to all members of the club. You can join the lcub for £60 a year as a single adult. Also we do not charge for use of our club boats, so I think you can learn to sail on quite a small budget, if the informal route is taken. I agree with Jim that the formal training route witrh certificates can be very pricey though! far too pricey and is what I think keeps a lot of people out of the sport. The fact that you cannot get a certificate or a formal training course without paying an arm and a leg for it! Oh forgot my club - Welland yacht club Edited by Adam MR 1137 |
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alstorer
Really should get out more Joined: 02 Aug 07 Location: Cambridge Online Status: Offline Posts: 2899 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 May 10 at 7:51pm |
Formal training at a club (fully RYA recognised, certsa and all) is more usually cheaper, through the use of volunteer (but fully qualified) instructors and lack of profit drive, though the really big clubs may be allied to a professional school operating on the same water that will be pricy. I'm sure your new colleagues will be able to point you in the right direction in the local area!
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craiggo
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 May 10 at 8:17pm |
I'd recommend not doing any formal qualifications. The text book approach to sailing very rarely works, and all they teach you in L1 & 2 is how to rig the boat and sail a triangular course.
Go down to your local club, ask around if someone needs a crew and get out there. You'll learn far more crewing for someone, and then as you gain experience you can then move to the back of the boat between races and gradually build up your experience. All in all it will only cost you the annual membership of the club. |
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ASok
Really should get out more Joined: 26 Sep 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 739 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 May 10 at 8:34pm |
And you'll learn all of their bad habits! I'd suggest learning the text book or proper way, then developing your own bad habits! |
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Garry
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 May 10 at 9:46pm |
Sorry to disagree but the RYA method or variations of has been successful getting people sailing since the 70s. Secondly you must have experienced a very poor centre, level 2 teaches you everything you need to sail safely in winds up to about 15 knots, including coming alongside, launching, man overboard, met, being towed, all points of sailing except a dead run, capsize recovery and very basic racing. Even commercial courses are good value when you consider the costs involved, most clubs offer something at a considerably reduced rate. Crewing is good if you can get out regularly, but unless really strapped for cash a course is generally well worth the money and allows you to succeed quickly. ps a commercial L2 course is less than 1/2 the cost of a new set of P&B sails - now that's expensive Edited by Garry |
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ASok
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 28 May 10 at 11:46am |
Garry - good points. I had just thought of the bad habits you'd be exposed to, but actually basic seamanship and safe handling of a boat are things you really need to learn.
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