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ham4sand ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 27 Jul 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 452 |
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+1 also |
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John Hamilton
cherub 2645 - cheese before bedtime cherub 3209 - anatidaephobia laser 176847 - kiss this |
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I luv Wight ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Jan 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 628 |
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Laser, Laser 2, Contender, FD, are all similar and nothing like any other bethwaite boat. |
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Medway Maniac ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
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I seem to recall that when Frank Bethwaite was asked to design the Laser 2 (= 3k hull shape), he was asked to use the Laser 1 as a starting point and drop the shape he'd used on the Tasar. Hence the similarity of Lasers 1 & 2, although according to his book he was careful to shape the stern quarters of the 2 to avoid the high-speed instability apparently inherent in the Laser 1. He attributes the L2 hull mostly to his Cherub design that was successful at the time. Don't forget that the 9ers and recent designs are largely Julian Bethwaite's work, rather than his dad's. |
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Mister Nick ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Aug 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 389 |
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Hmmm, Laser 3000 sounds like a VERY attractive idea. Anyone
got one for sale? |
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les5269 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Oct 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1530 |
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http://www.boatsandoutboards.com/view/F222640 http://www.boatsandoutboards.com/view/F222457 http://www.boatsandoutboards.com/view/F221377 A few to get you going. Edited by les5269 |
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49er 531 & 5000 5025 and a mirror(now gone to mirror heaven)!
Grafham water Sailing Club The greatest inland sailing in the country |
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Andymac ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 04 Apr 07 Location: Derbyshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 847 |
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There's 3 x listed in the Y&Y classified section as well (could be the same 3 though?).
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hollandsd ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Oct 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 852 |
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Nick
Are you coming to the dinghy show this weekend. If you are come see myself and medway maniac on the 3000 Class Stand. Dan |
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Laser 184084
Tasar 3501 RS600 698 RS600 782 |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6364 |
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I find it hard to believe the 3 Tonner is any better at that weight than a 29er. It is a bit easier to sail I guess. Plenty of our youngsters have learned to use trapezes on 29ers, but usually a year or so older. A lot depends on where you sail, but in your place I'd be mulling over the choice between the 405 and the 29er.
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Jack Sparrow ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2963 |
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having sailed all three (and at the right crew weight) 405, L3000 (&LII) and
29er with a novice trap crew. Go for the L3000. It will be an all round less fraught experience and therefore more fun. There is much more commitment ( confidence ) required from the crew on a 29er and without it will be unpleasant. edit: you'll also find it hard to get rid of a 405, and they are a far less well thought out boat than a L3000. Edited by Jack Sparrow |
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Mister Nick ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Aug 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 389 |
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I shall try and make it to the Dinghy Show. Are you guys there both days? Thanks for all the replies guys, the Laser 3000 seems to be the way to go :) Has anyone else got a cheap one for sale (except the nice guy who has already contacted me)? |
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