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Mister Nick 
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 Topic: Trapeze+Asymmetric for lightweightsPosted: 02 Mar 10 at 5:55pm |
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Medway Maniac
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Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
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Posted: 02 Mar 10 at 6:08pm |
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I'll let others comment on the Vago if they wish. But here is an interactive map of locations of active (in 2009!) 3k's. http://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=136067 Might be worth checking out if you're still choosing a club; maybe get in touch with the local sailor through the club and find out their plans this season. |
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English Dave
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Posted: 02 Mar 10 at 6:10pm |
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A 3000 is your best bet IMO. 405 is slower, more tippy and
more difficult to sell on. Of course that does mean that they are cheaper to buy. But a 3000 is fast and controllable. Not too expensive and still current enough to sell when you want to get a 29er. Ignore the Vago. It's not a bad boat but I don't think it will be the right choice for you as the 29er's main features are it's light weight and responsiveness, neither of which the Vago has. |
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zailor
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Posted: 02 Mar 10 at 6:46pm |
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Very good point above^
However the Vago also has a GNAV   (as does the V3000 porobably lol)
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English Dave
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Posted: 02 Mar 10 at 7:25pm |
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Yes it does and I think the L3000 can be converted. In the interests of fairness, however, I should point out that the Vago shares the 29er's high boom for easy(er) crossing of the boat whereas the 3000's boom is relatively low. I like the Vago and if I was without a regular crew and wanted to sail S/H it would be on my list. But it's not the right boat for a new crew who have 29er aspirations in the near future. Has anyone ever put an assymetric on a Fireball? |
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Rupert
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Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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Posted: 02 Mar 10 at 8:28pm |
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Yes - It really didn't suit it. I'm sure someone clever will find the photo and post it again There was an L3000 being raced this weekend at Whitefriars by 2 young teenagers. They were having an absolutely fantastic time, and when they got it right, the boat really took off. I'd get one if I was in their position, too. |
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Medway Maniac
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Posted: 02 Mar 10 at 8:38pm |
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Rupert, I notice there are three 3000's racing on and off at Whitefriars. Ironically, one of our Travellers Series regulars sails at South Cerney next door! I believe he plans to get in touch - seems a shame they aren't all racing together.
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tristanovacondio
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Joined: 10 Nov 11 Location: Riva del Garda Online Status: Offline Posts: 1 |
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Posted: 10 Nov 11 at 11:55am |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=d2j-i6kymsI
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Mister Nick
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Bit late now, I've had an RS500 for a season and a half. :P Thanks anyway!
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The Big Wednesday
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Posted: 21 Feb 19 at 3:42pm |
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Somewhat
late in the day but better late than never. The Hobie 405 was designed
as the RYA Intermediate Youth Training dinghy so probably not suitable
for those who are adult and lardy. It's more challenging than a Feva or
Topaz, and the like but more manageable tham a 29-er. The Laser /
Vander Craft 3000 mentioned above is essentially designed for adults,
not juniors. Second hand examples are also considerably more expensive
so not comparable IMO. My son is 13 and an ex-Tera sailor and had no
issues getting to grips with the 405.
Below is a new online resource for junior sailors interested in finding out
about the HOBIE 405, a performance dinghy that was (and is) much ahead of its
time in many respects. The Hobie 405 was designed from the ground up as
the RYA intermediate youth training dinghy, not a leisure boat with
go-faster add-ons. With great build quality, an asymmetric, single wire and PY of 1089 it ticks a lot of teenage boxes
and still offers a manageable and very affordable entry into real asymmetric
sailing for younger sailors. With competitive 2nd hand examples often around the £500.00 mark with combi, what's not to like? https://www.facebook.com/groups/309480016377777/ Edited by The Big Wednesday - 08 Mar 19 at 11:20pm |
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