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Post Options Post Options   Quote ham4sand Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Feb 10 at 3:24pm
Originally posted by G.R.F.

+1 for the L3k

Excellent Boat, only boat we can truly say to have planed
up wind with.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote I luv Wight Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Feb 10 at 4:00pm
Originally posted by G.R.F.


He must have designed it before he became hooked on mind altering drugs.


Laser, Laser 2, Contender, FD, are all similar and nothing like any other bethwaite boat.



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Post Options Post Options   Quote Medway Maniac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Feb 10 at 5:10pm

I seem to recall that when Frank Bethwaite was asked to design the Laser 2 (= 3k hull shape), he was asked to use the Laser 1 as a starting point and drop the shape he'd used on the Tasar. Hence the similarity of Lasers 1 & 2, although according to his book he was careful to shape the stern quarters of the 2 to avoid the high-speed instability apparently inherent in the Laser 1. He attributes the L2 hull mostly to his Cherub design that was successful at the time.

Don't forget that the 9ers and recent designs are largely Julian Bethwaite's work, rather than his dad's.

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Hmmm, Laser 3000 sounds like a VERY attractive idea. Anyone
got one for sale?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Andymac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Feb 10 at 11:38pm

There's 3 x listed in the Y&Y classified section as well (could be the same 3 though?).

 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote hollandsd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Mar 10 at 12:35pm
Nick

Are you coming to the dinghy show this weekend. If you are come see myself and medway maniac on the 3000 Class Stand.


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I find it hard to believe the 3 Tonner is any better at that weight than a 29er. It is a bit easier to sail I guess. Plenty of our youngsters have learned to use trapezes on 29ers, but usually a year or so older. A lot depends on where you sail, but in your place I'd be mulling over the choice between the 405 and the 29er.
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having sailed all three (and at the right crew weight) 405, L3000 (&LII) and
29er with a novice trap crew. Go for the L3000. It will be an all round less
fraught experience and therefore more fun. There is much more
commitment ( confidence ) required from the crew on a 29er and without it
will be unpleasant.

edit: you'll also find it hard to get rid of a 405, and they are a far less well
thought out boat than a L3000.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Mister Nick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Mar 10 at 5:20pm
Originally posted by hollandsd

NickAre you coming to the dinghy show
this weekend. If you are come see myself and medway maniac
on the 3000 Class Stand.Dan


I shall try and make it to the Dinghy Show. Are you guys
there both days?

Thanks for all the replies guys, the Laser 3000 seems to be
the way to go :) Has anyone else got a cheap one for sale
(except the nice guy who has already contacted me)?
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