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Originally posted by FireballNeil

I like the 100, but it got seriously outcooled in that
video at 3:46 when the musto flew past!


Yes I noticed that..

First creeping doubt set in.

Could have been lucky gust though..
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Originally posted by G.R.F.

Originally posted by FireballNeil

I like the 100, but it got seriously outcooled in that
video at 3:46 when the musto flew past!


Yes I noticed that..

First creeping doubt set in.

Could have been lucky gust though..

Wait 'til the toothpaste sets before you make your final judgement GRUMPF

Pass the skiff, man!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote G.R.F. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Feb 10 at 10:11am
Originally posted by Slippery Jim


Wait 'til the toothpaste sets before you make your final judgement
GRUMPF



Well that's an interesting Germanicism that didn't make the translation..

The toothpaste 'sets'?

I guess you're talking about that stuff that keeps your dentures in place..

They put Fluoride in our water years ago, you even get a dose when you
capsize on the London Res's, so we've pretty much all still got our own
teeth.

I realise with the preponderance of male to male oral sex in Germany your
toothlessness is advantageous..

But no, the toothpaste doesn't actually set over here..

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Slippery Jim Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Feb 10 at 10:28am
Originally posted by G.R.F.

Originally posted by Slippery Jim


Wait 'til the toothpaste sets before you make your final judgement
GRUMPF



Well that's an interesting Germanicism that didn't make the translation..

The toothpaste 'sets'?

I guess you're talking about that stuff that keeps your dentures in place..

They put Fluoride in our water years ago, you even get a dose when you
capsize on the London Res's, so we've pretty much all still got our own
teeth.

I realise with the preponderance of male to male oral sex in Germany your
toothlessness is advantageous..

But no, the toothpaste doesn't actually set over here..

Meaning "sikaflex" or  generically, marine silicon.

What prompted the rest?

Pass the skiff, man!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote G.R.F. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Feb 10 at 10:56am
As I once pointed out to a friend and colleague who worked Long term in
Munich, the human body is over 75% water inevitably the process of total
Germanification sets in by natural causes and with it, total sense of humour
failure.. (and an obsession with Pork Knuckles)

He returned to Blighty where he now runs courses, therapy helplines for
expats recently returned with ridiculous notions, like unnatural Boat choice..

Do you want me to book you an appointment?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote laser193713 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Feb 10 at 11:22am
why did i not just buy one of these while they were cheap!? It looks like the perfect boat for me as a cross between a laser and a 700, if i sell both now it leaves me with about 6500 quid, annoyingly just short of a 100! I recon this is a boat i could jump straight into and be reasonably competetive because of my laser sailing and the assy work from the 700.  I'm kicking myself!
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That is a great shot !

Back to the video (thanks Keith), and as a continuation of the "compared
to a Phantom" discussion... at 4.40 on the video is that a Phantom that
the RS100 nicely sails under and out in front after rounding the leeward
mark ?

Nice move if it is !

Having followed the transom of a lot of Phantoms upwind in the lighter
stuff (!) no doubts at all about what a fantastic weapon it is in those
conditions - if the 100 does match it then that will be a considerable
achievement - however, downwind.....dont think there will be any
comparison - the inboard kneeling down position for the Phantom
running is the one thing that put me off ever going down that route.

Back to the video, she appears very nimble (more so than I thought) and
looks like she planes pretty easily with the kite in not much breeze.

Reckon that Musto is being towed by a RIB though ! But there again, that
is chalk-and-cheese and wouldn't expect any comparison at all as the
PY's show. Beautiful boat the MPS for those good enough to sail it well
and with suitable open water.

Think the 100 is going to be LOADS of fun !!!!

Had thought of calling my boat "Simples" - but she-who-has-to-be-
obeyed said if I did she wouldn't let me have the money !!

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Not now Kato (you fewl) !

RS100 421 (8.4)
Ex - Vortex Assymetric 1090 and 1208
Ex - 49er NZL142 (crew)
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Looks like a Solution to me, rather than a Phant (concave foredeck).
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how would that work when the total value of both boats is only 6500 quid?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Hector Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Feb 10 at 1:30pm

Originally posted by turnturtle

Originally posted by G.R.F.

Originally posted by FireballNeil

I like the 100, but it got seriously outcooled in that
video at 3:46 when the musto flew past!


Yes I noticed that..

First creeping doubt set in.

Could have been lucky gust though..


No it's because the Musto Skiff is faster- bigger sail area, bigger righting moment with a trapeze.

The RS100 has a TN of 1005 with it's biggest rig, the MPS has 875... no intention for David to slay
Goliath I'm afraid.

May I suggest, dear Sancho, you refocus your efforts looking for some more windmills?

I've seen this guys video equipment - big big lens. So distances are foreshortened - the musto could be half the distance away. If so, she could be going same speed but would appear to be going about twice as fast.

Probably a combination of effects going on inthis shot and yes the Musto is definately going faster, but if speed alone = cool what about the speed that Moth goes through the frame?



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