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Jack Sparrow
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Topic: 29X or just a SMOD cherub? Posted: 14 Apr 05 at 10:07am |
I take it you don't like the look of I14's as well then?
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andy_cherub
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 14 Apr 05 at 10:49am |
No flow, what?! - dose hard chines aid extra speed! So you dont like cherubs, you dont like I14's, I take it you dont like 18footers, so u must also hate 12ft skiffs.................... Hang on - you hate EVERY development class! |
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carshalton fc
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 14 Apr 05 at 11:25am |
dvelopment classes are really cool but they arnt for everyone!
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5420
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 14 Apr 05 at 11:27am |
they dont get as good reacing
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carshalton fc
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 14 Apr 05 at 11:50am |
yer and they are more expensive!!
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International 14 1503
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andy_cherub
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 14 Apr 05 at 12:07pm |
WHAT! you havent even sailed one before - done make assumptions! and as for the expense? Its cheaper to have a custom built, latest spec cherub than it is a 49er! and guess which is more fun? comming from someone who has raced em both! But again, its all down to personal preference - im not slating the 29er continiously like some ppl in here are doin to the cherub - if you like your class then that is enough! we sail what we sail for our own reasons. Every boat has its equal good and bad points. |
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49erGBR735HSC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 14 Apr 05 at 12:37pm |
If the 49er was a development class, I don't think I would have went for one because there is always something else you have to do to the boat to keep it fast. We considered buying a 14, but the price of the boat and the development factor put us off a bit. Would love to move into a development class in the future though when we know that we could keep up with the pace of developments but for just now its not an option. The Cherub does seem a nice boat, and doesn't seem too expensive to keep up to date, just a little bit small for my preferances just now. I really love the look of the Primal Scream boat and it is really good to see the class develope in this way. I feel the boats like Primal Scream will appeal more than a 29erX for sailors that are of the same frame of mind as me and I'd consider sailing a Primal Scream Cherub in the future, whereas the 29erX doesn't really appeal to what I'd like to do in the future. Will be interesting to see the comparitive prices of the boats.
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Funtime
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 15 Apr 05 at 12:11am |
The new primal scream is an awesome idea, its gonna help the cherub class loads, its gonna make the cherub more available, its got gorgeous clean lines and the rig looks impressive... Its true everyone has there own opinion and thats what makes sailing so great theres so much choice to choose from. Im saving for a boat now and im trying to choose between the 14 and 49er, its all about cost cos im a student and i cant afford to keep upgrading.... but what would perfomance saling be without boats like the cherub???
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timnoyce
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 15 Apr 05 at 1:52am |
i know the feeling mate, i'm a student too. That's why i chose a cherub
so that i could save on the high retail costs by making a lot of my
parts from carbon myself. I've found that although that is possible in
14's, they all seem to look very proffesional as most parts are bought
from mass producing manufacturers and people all have very similar
configurations. I'd go for the 14 though, they just have more prestige
and heritage than a 49er in my view....
If you want a very decent 49er at an affordable price send me a message and I can put you in contact with someone. |
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Jack Sparrow
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 15 Apr 05 at 10:37am |
The great thing about a 12 foot development class is
that it really isn't expensive. Basically you can't do much with a 12 foot water line so the hull shapes all go at a similar speed. This applies to N12 as well as Cherubs. Even radically different looking boats like Loco Perro and Slug, have very similar waterline shapes. Plus the materials are less because there's less boat. Carbon mast are easy to make and fix ( see mpeg video's on the cherub site or our DVD ). So are center boards and rudders ( see above also). And sails wear out in all classes. My old boat was very competitve and she was built in 1989, the inlands Championship was won by a similar aged boat last year. And this is basically because the boats are very well made in the first place and just don't go soggy. So it is a common sailing myth that development classes are expensive. I think this comes about from classes like the i14 where alot of money exists because of the type of sailor that sails them. ( I like i14's so please no irrate 14er's ) SMOD's can be very expensive to. When the manufacture stops supporting the class and you lose secondhand value and when they decide to change the 'strict one design' boat you have bought for you. So you must comply. Or when it is no longer a trendy class to sail. There are many examples of this. So please everyone development classes aren't all expensive, it is all down to how the rules are written and the class culture. Basically performance sailing isn't cheap however you do it. |
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