J24 (Sail No. 4239) Dartmouth |
29er GBR 074 Tynemouth |
Laurent Giles 'Jolly Boat' Exeter |
List classes of boat for sale |
29X or just a SMOD cherub? |
Post Reply | Page <1 56789 10> |
Author | |
Phil eltringham
Really should get out more Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: England/Hitchin Online Status: Offline Posts: 1105 |
Post Options
Quote Reply
Topic: 29X or just a SMOD cherub? Posted: 08 Apr 05 at 11:25am |
the main difference is that the 29er is a good two feet longer so should be a lot less twitchy than the cherub and potentially easier to sail. A lot of kids may well get the X rig for the 29er as it is effctively a cheap upgrade for when they get bigger or the wind drops, much as people change rigs on lasers now. If I didn't enjoy my B14 so much I might have wanted to get hold of an X-rig for my old 29er.
|
|
FLAT IS FAST!
Shifts Happen |
|
JimC
Really should get out more Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6649 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Apr 05 at 12:54pm |
Completely true - In 1980 Guy Lewington bough the World Champion winning Cherub Flat Stanley for 500 quid. Wasn't a lot even then. Over the next few years he won about everything worth winning (Bloody Mary, Stokes Bay Solent Pusuit, Grafham Grand prix, several Champs etc etc) with total fiddling being a new suit of sails , probably a couple of kites, one new mast when he broke the old one and possibly the occassional lick of varnish on the decks (though it sure never looked like it!) I don't think X versus X arguments achieve a lot. Cherub and 9er evolution is all tied up together with a whole lot of other influences. Some folk sail SMODs for what are good reasons to them (and its only your own opinion of the reasons that count) other sail box rule boats because that suits them. Frankly as long as they are having fun sailing I don't care! I think the 29er is a great boat, but I personally wouldn't want to own one. Should the 29erX in the adevrtised state turn into a shipping boat it will be interesting to see, but I really would be suprised if the hull shape was optimum for the new rig, but the marketing and production saving advantages of two rigs might tip the balance over the ideal hull. |
|
Keith
Groupie Joined: 22 Mar 04 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 41 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Apr 05 at 12:56pm |
Completely agree Jim C. Good conclusion to this topic...... |
|
Keith...
|
|
andy_cherub
Really should get out more Joined: 16 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 768 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Apr 05 at 12:59pm |
Indeed Jim! PS - you comming to Weymouth this wknd? Andy |
|
-12ft skiff, Team 'CST Composites'
-Many thanks goes out to all of my sponsors. Ignore my user name, my views are of a 12ft skiff |
|
49erGBR735HSC
Really should get out more Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Apr 05 at 7:12pm |
I think talking about insurance and boat suppliers prices is opening a can of worms in reality. No much how much we discuss it, nothing will change. I'm thinking about shopping about on my policy next season because over 4 years I've put in one claim and had 50% surcharge added to my premium, which ammounts to more than they were paying out in the first place. You can't deny insurance premiums for High Performance boats are sky high, but I suppose it comes with the teritory and at the end of the day the companies have to stay in business. It does get scary when you are looking at a four figure insurance premium if you put in one claim within the next season though. Edited by 49erGBR735HSC |
|
Funtime
Newbie Joined: 08 Apr 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 7 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 09 Apr 05 at 12:13am |
But andy what happened at the student nationals in weymouth in november chap tehe I kinda remember how poor she was sailing upwind compared with the rest of the fleet but having said that i was in a firefly lol Only kiddin, i had my first sail in a performance boat in andys cherub up 't' north in the cold of winter. It was great fun, but alot of sailors like to buy these of the shelf boats as you call em. Alot of people arnt into tweeking and modifying, its not just about going as fast as you can. Its about getting round a course. |
|
tgruitt
Really should get out more Joined: 02 Dec 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2479 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 12 Apr 05 at 11:57am |
i have sailed a cherub and a 29er, there is nothing you can do to a 29er except toally redesign it that would make it as good as a cherub.
|
|
Needs to sail more...
|
|
lemeouttahere
Groupie Joined: 31 Mar 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 94 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 13 Apr 05 at 2:11pm |
no offence to anyone but in my opinion the cherub does look kinda boxy whereas the 29er has a fantastic shape and only lacks sail so 29erx should be good fun
|
|
andy_cherub
Really should get out more Joined: 16 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 768 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 13 Apr 05 at 7:54pm |
You obviously havent seen primal scream! (before its paint job!) cheurbs are boxy eh?
|
|
-12ft skiff, Team 'CST Composites'
-Many thanks goes out to all of my sponsors. Ignore my user name, my views are of a 12ft skiff |
|
lemeouttahere
Groupie Joined: 31 Mar 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 94 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 13 Apr 05 at 11:44pm |
prime example, its all edges and corners, nice if thats what you like but no flow fantastic rig tho
|
|
Post Reply | Page <1 56789 10> |
Forum Jump | Forum Permissions You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum |