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Matt Jackson
Really should get out more Joined: 21 Sep 04 Location: Darlington Online Status: Offline Posts: 962 |
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Topic: Harness Haze Posted: 17 May 05 at 1:05pm |
And that's your choice. You have had an experience where a QR hook would make you feel safer but I have never seen or heard of anyone I know who has been endagered by a harness. I have, however seen and heard of lots of instances where a sailor has been injured/hospitalised because of a knock to the head by a boom (I do sail a Contender remember ), does that mean that every sailor should wear crash helmets? Where would it end? In a lot of money being spent, a lot of freedom being lost and the sport I love being regulated like F1... yawn. Edited by Matt Jackson |
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49erGBR735HSC
Really should get out more Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 17 May 05 at 2:30pm |
Just had the experience and thought it could happen again quite easily just due to the way I always go forward on the boat after righting. It wasn't a freak thing and that's what had me thinking. Just a little bit more money for being a bit safer plus it's not going to affect the way I sail. And if I had been not so lucky,it would have been very serious, the weight of the whole boat acting downwards on me with my hook firmly locked into the shroud and my bouancy forcing me back upwards to that force. I don't like to think of the consequences....... Edited by 49erGBR735HSC |
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Black no sugar
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 17 May 05 at 2:37pm |
I don't want to gate crash your conversation, but have you had a close look at those QR hooks? Contender443 bought a new harness at the Dinghy Show and received his brand new spreader bar, complete with safety hook, last week. (He would tell you himself, but he's working hard... bless...) Of course, the first thing we did was to take the whole thing apart, to see how it worked. It took him 5 or 6 goes to release the hook. It's not easy ! I imagine when your life's in danger, you're likely to pull much harder However, you still need to keep a cool head to locate the bit of string that will pull the pin that will lose the hook that will release you Oh, and a tip: when you receive your new hook system, you might feel the unstoppable urge to give it a good tug .. Make sure you've got nowhere to go fast, 'cos putting it together again is.... fun, fun, fun!!! |
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49erGBR735HSC
Really should get out more Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 17 May 05 at 3:38pm |
I'm going for the Magic marine one because it has no plastic, seems the simplest and is the cheapest. I'd end up destroying something plastic. |
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Black no sugar
Really should get out more Joined: 04 Dec 04 Location: Somewhere between Brighton and Lancing Online Status: Offline Posts: 3941 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 17 May 05 at 6:27pm |
That's the one he's got!
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Mike278
Far too distracted from work Joined: 09 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 256 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 17 May 05 at 7:46pm |
I've only had one experiance of a quick release trapeze harness (a sea sure not a magic marine), and the hook fell off before I even got on the water, which gave me so much confidance in it . Now i use a normal hook, tied on so you can pull 2 bits of rope and the the entire spreader bar comes off.
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Matt Jackson
Really should get out more Joined: 21 Sep 04 Location: Darlington Online Status: Offline Posts: 962 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 17 May 05 at 8:37pm |
I'm not critisizing anyone for buying a QR harness - my next one will be as well, but I beleive it should be my choice afterall the one I'd like to go for is the bethwaite system but it probably won't be legal under the present wording.
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maxim
Posting king Joined: 25 Nov 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 127 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 17 May 05 at 9:32pm |
I agree, I think the need for a QR harness may vary
hugely from boat to boat. Whilst crewing a 420, I really don't feel that I should ever need one. Now, I'm not overlly experienced in the really high performance boats, but I'm sure that perhaps for some other classes, a QR system maybe much more sensible... But for ISAF to introduce a blanket rule, without taking into account the many different levels and variations of harness risk, is slightly annoying... [just an opinion!!] |
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HelenF
Newbie Joined: 12 Mar 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 24 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 May 05 at 1:42pm |
Just to flag up that Y&Y will be doing a special feature on trapeze
harnesses in the December 2 issue, in time to iron out the implications of any new ruling before it comes into force in 2006. We'll also be taking a look at quick release systems and innovations on the market. |
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49erGBR735HSC
Really should get out more Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 18 May 05 at 3:09pm |
I've heard good stories about the RWO QR system. Apparently you can release the hook during a tack and put it back into place coming out the otherside of the tack, if you're caught out on the wire, which I'm sure we've all done before.
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