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DannySimpson
Newbie Joined: 18 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 8 |
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Topic: Harness Haze Posted: 24 Mar 05 at 3:58pm |
Has anyone heard any news on the ISAF RRS 40.2 regarding the quick release capability of harnesses, due to come in on the 1st Jan 2006? As far as I can tell, ISAF said they wont certify or specify a particular model, so is there any criteria that can be applied to current harness designs to determine before the rule becomes law whether the one I have is legal? Unusually, I haven't noticed the kit manufacturers slapping stickers on new designs saying "ISAF compliant" or anything similar, so is it possible that nobody knows what the rule means? Or am I just missing the point and just happen not to have seen the particular harness involving a five number security tumbler, Houdini chains and blindfold, which could perhaps be seen as 'slow release'? Where is the cut off point and who's counting the seconds? I know some of the RRS can be a bit fuzzy, but stating a rule comes in on a date and then not defining it at all seems a bit too muddled. I promise I'm not losing any sleep over this, still plenty of time to work it out but it would be nice to know what ISAF were thinking... (PS: tried looking at the minutes on ISAF website, but it's down)
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Scooby_simon
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Mar 05 at 4:02pm |
do a search on 40.2 - we;ve had a lot of discussion on this - and got nothing from the IYRU (so far)
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bigwavedave
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 24 Mar 05 at 5:50pm |
There is also a thread on the ISAF forum about this.
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DannySimpson
Newbie Joined: 18 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 8 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 29 Mar 05 at 1:55pm |
Thanks guys, am having difficulty loading the ISAF page: am I doing something wrong or is their server down?
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OmegaPiZeta
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49erGBR735HSC
Really should get out more Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 31 Mar 05 at 10:19am |
Does anyone know if carrying a knife on your person whilst sailing classifies as a quick release mechanism? I mean one that doesn't fold and has a holster because it seems a lot easier to slice through something than fiddle around trying to relase a hook plus it also eliminates the factor of being caught up in ropes where releasing a hook from a trapeze harness isn't going to do much.
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KnightMare
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 31 Mar 05 at 10:26am |
I dont know about that. But One of the Instructors i was talking to was saying that they had an instructor caught under but couldnt cut him out as he got cuaght on the wire and this was a bit too strong to be cut with a knife.
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DannySimpson
Newbie Joined: 18 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 8 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 31 Mar 05 at 10:28am |
Had a scary moment once when the conditions got a bit nasty and we where caught upside down with my crew clipped onto the shroud. Luckily he was wearing a Magic Marine harness with lovely clips on so it was easy enough to just pop him free. I don't think a knife would have been as quick
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Contender443
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 31 Mar 05 at 11:58am |
The RYA "policy" or "advice" on entrapment is to right the boat as soon as possible. If you approach a capsized boat then they say 2 people should be able to right any boat in about 20 seconds. They say this is quicker and safer than trying to cut someone out. You have got to find the missing person first. Remember if you are sailing past a capsized boat you are the rescue boat until the real one arrives, so if you cannot see the crew are safe you must stop and help. |
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Doctor Clifford
Far too distracted from work Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 243 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 31 Mar 05 at 12:45pm |
cut the harness straps (rope or webbing) - not the wire! |
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KnightMare
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 31 Mar 05 at 1:07pm |
yeah I know that I was jsut saying what my coach said. I think that some how he had got stuck so that wasnt easy. I dont know. Contender443 that only works at places where the mast wont hit the bottom. |
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