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Andymac
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Topic: class forums Posted: 20 Jul 09 at 5:53pm |
Y&Y acting as host for class forum's? pro's and con's....? |
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English Dave
Really should get out more Joined: 10 Aug 06 Location: Northern Ireland Online Status: Offline Posts: 682 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Jul 09 at 6:03pm |
Most CAs have part of their forum restricted to paid-up
members. The CA forums are moderated and administrated by those who know their membership and the class. Cannot see the benefit of Y&Y hosting CA forums. |
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Andymac
Really should get out more Joined: 04 Apr 07 Location: Derbyshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 852 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Jul 09 at 6:29pm |
Fair comment. I was thinking of the smaller classes i.e. Lightnings that don't/didn't have a forum of their own. Obviously any arrangement would have to be mutually agreed by Y&Y and the CA. Likewise Y&Y might give moderation / admin to third parties, don't know whether that could threaten the security of the Y&Y site. There are some 'unofficial' class forums that seem to have taken a greater role than the official CA websites i.e. 'Jard' for the Laser 2's. In some respects, keeping CA forums (and indeed sailing club forums) for the privacy of members only (yes I know you've paid your subs) could be counter-productive for anyone thinking of joining up. Even not being allowed to read only can be a bit off putting.... Edited by Andymac |
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English Dave
Really should get out more Joined: 10 Aug 06 Location: Northern Ireland Online Status: Offline Posts: 682 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Jul 09 at 7:07pm |
It's not difficult to set up yr own forum. We have one
running for www.catamarans.ie. I agree about the counter productive bit. As a Hurricane sailor I am always trying to get tips from other multihull classes but find it diffcult. However, on the H59 forum we have things split so that only class members get access to the juicy bits while casual visitors can still find out what's going on in the class. |
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Medway Maniac
Really should get out more Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Jul 09 at 8:27pm |
Indeed. The Wayfarer site and forum are a bit like that. Not very inviting. |
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G.R.F.
Really should get out more Joined: 10 Aug 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 4028 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Jul 09 at 9:38pm |
Pro would be easier use, the two classes I've wanted to join tool around on
that garbage Yahoo groups board, I find tedious in the extreme and can't be asked to engage. Cons obviously class control of forum membership. |
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laser4000
Really should get out more Joined: 02 Aug 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 589 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Jul 09 at 10:25pm |
I hate class forums that are
a) Members Only - What the duck - If I'm interested enough in a class to bother looking at their website then why can't I look at the forums. If the only selling point of being a CA member is that you get access to their forums then that's a poor situation. With my nieces working thru the youth system I occassionally want to look at websites that might not be a class I actively sail/race b) Too many sections - events, buy and sell, technical and general is about all you need - having multiple different foums reduces participation - Optimist UK site is the classic example - they have about 30 different forums - almost one for every different event and most have no posts in the last year. c) Ones that run on outdated / old-fashioned software. With the likes of phpBB or YAbb about then setting up a decent forum is straightforward for a techie, so why do we have to make do with outdated forums on the likes of fireball, firefly and 420 websites. Being able to sensibly quote, and thread messages and private message other users is all pretty standard.. d) Forcing 'real name' registration - dunno about you but I'm a bit loathe to post under my real name cos I wouldn't want people to google my name and be able to see all my posts, especially if the odd one done thru the working day - plus there's the privacy issue too - amazing what you can deduce about someone by linking together public record / pulicly volunteered information... Yeah I know it's all done by volunteers - well before anyome jumps on me too hard then I've been there/done that and got the t-shirt.. Edited by laser4000 |
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Guest
Newbie Joined: 21 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 0 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Jul 09 at 10:32pm |
We have a class forum; it's easy to use free to anyone to join and all content is open to the public. http://www.mustoskiff.com/phpBB3/index.php Classes who hide their forums behind closed doors seem quite strange to me ... why would you want to do that? If any class wanted to host a forum there is plenty of freeware around or you can sign up for an advertising supported free & hosted service ... Y&Y isn't the place for class forums ... even if it used to be the Cherub forum ... |
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Scooby_simon
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 Jul 09 at 1:21am |
If classes want a forum, talk to me; I already run the Shadow Forum. |
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jeffers
Really should get out more Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 Jul 09 at 9:09am |
For my money the Laser forum and the Phantom Class Forum are among the best I have come across. The Blaze uses a yahoo group, somewhat cumbersome but it is well used by the CA members. To my mind a lot of classes could learn from the Laser and Phantom. Both boards are friendly and welcoming even to non class sailors (remember a lurker on your forum today is a potential class member tomorrow). As for Y&Y hosting forums for smaller classes is an idea but there would have to be some kind of incentive for Y&Y to do this because the work involved would need to be paid for (Y&Y is a commercial organisation don't forget). |
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