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    Posted: 20 Jul 09 at 5:53pm

Y&Y acting as host for class forum's?

pro's and con's....?

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Most CAs have part of their forum restricted to paid-up
members. The CA forums are moderated and administrated by
those who know their membership and the class. Cannot see
the benefit of Y&Y hosting CA forums.
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Fair comment.

I was thinking of the smaller classes i.e. Lightnings that don't/didn't have a forum of their own. Obviously any arrangement would have to be mutually agreed by Y&Y and the CA.

Likewise Y&Y might give moderation / admin to third parties, don't know whether that could threaten the security of the Y&Y site.

There are some 'unofficial' class forums that seem to have taken a greater role than the official CA websites i.e. 'Jard' for the Laser 2's.

In some respects, keeping CA forums (and indeed sailing club forums) for the privacy of members only (yes I know you've paid your subs) could be counter-productive for anyone thinking of  joining up. Even not being allowed to read only can be a bit off putting....



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It's not difficult to set up yr own forum. We have one
running for www.catamarans.ie.

I agree about the counter productive bit. As a Hurricane
sailor I am always trying to get tips from other multihull
classes but find it diffcult. However, on the
H59 forum we
have things split so that only class members get access to
the juicy bits while casual visitors can still find out
what's going on in the class.
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Originally posted by Andymac

In some respects, keeping CA forums (and indeed sailing club forums) for the privacy of members only (yes I know you've paid your subs) could be counter-productive for anyone thinking of  joining up. Even not being allowed to read only can be a bit off putting....

Indeed. The Wayfarer site and forum are a bit like that. Not very inviting.

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Pro would be easier use, the two classes I've wanted to join tool around on
that garbage Yahoo groups board, I find tedious in the extreme and can't be
asked to engage.

Cons obviously class control of forum membership.
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I hate class forums that are

a) Members Only - What the duck - If I'm interested enough in a class to bother looking at their website then why can't I look at the forums. If the only selling point of being a CA member is that you get access to their forums then that's a poor situation. With my nieces working thru the youth system I occassionally want to look at websites that might not be a class I actively sail/race

b) Too many sections - events, buy and sell, technical and general is about all you need - having multiple different foums reduces participation - Optimist UK site is the classic example - they have about 30 different forums - almost one for every different event and most have no posts in the last year.

c) Ones that run on outdated / old-fashioned software. With the likes of phpBB or YAbb about then setting up a decent forum is straightforward for a techie, so why do we have to make do with outdated forums on the likes of fireball, firefly and 420 websites. Being able to sensibly quote, and thread messages and private message other users is all pretty standard..

d) Forcing 'real name' registration - dunno about you but I'm a bit loathe to post under my real name cos I wouldn't want people to google my name and be able to see all my posts, especially if the odd one done thru the working day - plus there's the privacy issue too - amazing what you can deduce about someone by linking together public record / pulicly volunteered information...


Yeah I know it's all done by volunteers - well before anyome jumps on me too hard then I've been there/done that and got the t-shirt..


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jul 09 at 10:32pm

We have a class forum; it's easy to use free to anyone to join and all content is open to the public.

http://www.mustoskiff.com/phpBB3/index.php

Classes who hide their forums behind closed doors seem quite strange to me ... why would you want to do that?

If any class wanted to host a forum there is plenty of freeware around or you can sign up for an advertising supported free & hosted service ...

Y&Y isn't the place for class forums ... even if it used to be the Cherub forum ...

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Scooby_simon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jul 09 at 1:21am

If classes want a forum, talk to me; I already run the Shadow Forum.

Wanna learn to Ski - PM me..
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Post Options Post Options   Quote jeffers Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jul 09 at 9:09am

For my money the Laser forum and the Phantom Class Forum are among the best I have come across.

The Blaze uses a yahoo group, somewhat cumbersome but it is well used by the CA members.

To my mind a lot of classes could learn from the Laser and Phantom. Both boards are friendly and welcoming even to non class sailors (remember a lurker on your forum today is a potential class member tomorrow).

As for Y&Y hosting forums for smaller classes is an idea but there would have to be some kind of incentive for Y&Y to do this because the work involved would need to be paid for (Y&Y is a commercial organisation don't forget).

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