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JimC
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Topic: Future Olympic Classes? Posted: 20 Mar 05 at 12:49am |
(from Spice thread)
What you've got to remember about getting boats into the Olympics is that its going to be an International Class, and probably one that is sailed in a lot of countries. Whatever you may think of them its for sure that the UK smods have a poor record of getting adopted in other countries. This is a list of the current International classes with which country I think they originated in and what decade (I could be wrong about some of these) 1990s 29ER AUS/UK 49ER AUS/USA/JPN 1980s Laser 4.7 USA LASER RADIAL USA 1970s LASER II AUS/USA TOPPER UK LASER USA 1960s CONTENDER AUS 420 France 470 France EUROPE France FLYING JUNIOR Holland OK Scandinavia FIREBALL UK MIRROR UK MOTH UK/AUS/NZ/USA 1950s SUNFISH USA 505 UK/France FLYING DUTCHMAN Holland FINN Scandinavia CADET UK ENTERPRISE UK LIGHTNING USA VAURIEN France OPTIMIST USA/Scandinavia 1940s SNIPE USA 1930s 14 UK You can see that the only UK SMD to feature is the Topper, and its a mystery to me how that keeps its international status, it must be clinging to the countries/continents requirement by the skin of its teeth. All the recent classes have been USA and AUS, and the Bethwaites, with 3 International and also two recognised classes, are the kings of modern dinghy design. Its also well worth noting that the Bethwaitea have very strong USA connections, especially with Ian Bruce, the Laser designer of course - the Bruce/Bethwaite combination has an almost complete dominance of recent International classes! So the smart money is that a new design Olympic singlehander would be a Bruce/Bethwaite concept, orginating in USA/Australia, and almost certainly not a product of the UK factories. Unless of course the times change! Edited by JimC |
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5420
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Mar 05 at 6:22pm |
do not foget that a olympic claas has to be an international claas for 10 years befor it can be chosen dont ask my why but this is a stupid rule and you are going to say how did the 49er get in then that got in because they liked it so much they broke the rule but when you think about it this means that no RS boat can be in the olympic yet nor the musto skiff
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KnightMare
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Mar 05 at 6:24pm |
but if they broke it once they might breake it again, though not likely.
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JimC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Mar 05 at 7:15pm |
News to me... Where did you find that? |
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sailor girl
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Mar 05 at 8:01pm |
yeah, i'm not sure that's correct because the byte c2 was considered and that's new from last year...
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Harry44981!
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Mar 05 at 9:21pm |
Toppers are sailed by ex-pats in dubai (+various other nationalities there), and have a fleet in Japan.
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5420
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 Mar 05 at 11:32am |
i read about an olimpik class haveing to be an international foir 10 years i can not remeber what it was in i think it was in dinghy sailing magazen but i think they are starting to inore the rules because they had to inore for the 49er because they liked it so much |
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guytoon
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 Mar 05 at 3:25pm |
I think that english builder will have a chance to get some olympic classes when they will try to sell their boats abroad. Actually you have few chance to get a RS boat outside UK and poor esperance to buy a musto outside Europe. |
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Jack Sparrow
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 Mar 05 at 7:39pm |
Not being a Olympic committee member i would only be guessing but I am sure the reason the 49er got into the Sydney Olympics was more to do with the Australians love of spectator based sailing (18's e.t.c) And it being a very tele-visual boat. Oh and the designer was from Oz! |
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Spot192
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 Mar 05 at 7:49pm |
isnīt the rthing with the olympic classes also something like politics?
the one who has the most influence in the sport gets their class in. i
think itīs all based on profit. thatīs the way it seems to me.
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