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dics
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Topic: GP14 Furling Genoa Posted: 27 Apr 09 at 2:23pm |
Right, I have bought a GP14 for a family boat. In my endeavors to make it easier on the water I have thought about added a furling kit to the genoa. My main concern is that if I add furling gear then I will effectively be increasing the length of the luff. Does anyone know if you can add furling gear to at GP14 genoa and if so what you do with the extra increase of the luff? Thanks
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Lukepiewalker
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 27 Apr 09 at 5:19pm |
One of our club GPs has a furling genoa on it. Can't say I have ever considered the luff length issue, possibly the Genoa is cut differently (it is also Blue...). I would possibly talk to a sailmaker and see what they say, as the GPs have a cruising section in their class association it should be fairly well trodden ground. Certainly in terms of the boat itself all of the furling equipment on our club boat stays attached to that particular sail and 'normal' genoas can be attached without any surgery for 'racing' mode.
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stuarthop
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 28 Apr 09 at 10:15am |
any good sail maker should be able to trim it down for you would normally cost between £20 and £40 depending on how long it would take to do.
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Matt Jackson
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 28 Apr 09 at 12:41pm |
I don't believe its outlawed and normally fit's any boat. I'd check the luff length thing though because there should be enough space between the head and the sheave to fit it in (from memory). Then all you need to do is move the muscle box/highfield lever etc (usually just clamped into the slot in the back of the mast) to account for the extra length. |
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MerlinMags
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 28 Apr 09 at 1:11pm |
For cruising you shouldnt need to change the sail itself (don't pay to have it recut I mean). But you may find that 4 inches lost at the bottom may cause issues depending on your halyard arrangement.
Why not try adding a 4 inch bit of rope to the tack of the sail, and hositing it up, to see if there is room up the mast, and whether the halyard still cleats nicely? |
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Isis
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 28 Apr 09 at 2:12pm |
If you do move your sail up the forestay without recutting make sure you check your tracks have enough movement aft to acount for the change in sheeting angle... Edit: Obviously not as important for cruising as for racing but even 2 inches could completely transform the charicter of the boat Edited by Isis |
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dics
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 29 Apr 09 at 8:43am |
Thanks chaps for the poionters. I will give it a go. There is a Highfield lever so that might want moving. The tracks are very, very, very long so there should not be an issue there.
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Rupert
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 29 Apr 09 at 8:48am |
A chap at our club fitted one to a boat I did up for him and helped him rig. There was plenty of space between top of jib and sheeve to fit the furler. Don't forget you'll need something at the top of the jib to stop the forestay getting wrapped up.
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dics
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 May 09 at 1:08pm |
Thanks Guys. I fitted a RWO furler. Had to move the Highfield and works fine when I furl the sail slowly. If I furl it too fast the forstay wraps up. However, it does not wrap at the top. It wraps about 2 foot up. The forstay is very, very loose with the jib up. I was thinking about reducing the length of the forstay to sort it out - would that work? BTW I have a guide at the top and the space between top of jib and sheeve pretty short thus reducing the chances of it wrapping up there. Alternatively I though I could always shackle the forstay to the mast when fully rigged. Dics |
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Roy Race
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 May 09 at 1:31pm |
The RWO furler is the best.
I tried this and found that having the forestay quite tight doesn't really help. It still gets wrapped up. The options are to either have a disc at the top to separate the forestay away from the jib luff, or you could try fitting a fairly loose rope forestay instead of wire. 3mm dyneema works ok. That way, the forestay can get wrapped up in the furl and it doesn't really matter. No chafe. Alternatively, just get rid of the forestay when you're on the water. |
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