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    Posted: 14 Nov 08 at 10:10pm

Rumor has it that they are working on a hiking single hander with a spinni...

Has any one seen anything of it yet or know any more about it?

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This could be an interesting thread....if one was to develop a new hiking singlehander with kite, what should it be like....

Performance upwind (est PY)?. Round the course performance (Est PY)?

Racks / solid wings? Performance equalised? Or just simple like 300?

Centreboard / daggerboard?

"unstayed" (no forestay) for easy hoist / gybe like Vareo, or fully rigged like MPS/700.? Or a combination?

If one went balls out and did the ultimate qualiy boat would you pay 10k for complete package with combi / covers?

 Mainsheet style? What about a little self-tacking jib?

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Ah well, Nick, the best way of getting a singlehander upwind is of course a plank. Less drag than wings/racks, more righting moment than Trapeze... The nearest you'll get to an ultimate quality hiking/spinnaker singlehander is of course available to order from Rob Michael, but that level of quality will cost a little more than 10K and isn't for the mass market...

Performance equalisation does seem to be a bit last century, but I never liked the idea so maybe I'm biased. Also do you think anyone's ever got it to work even partially well in a singlehander?

On rigs, Steve (Cogito) Clark once built an experimental singlehander with 4 shrouds, X spreaders and no forestay which had a self tacking asymmetric.

Personally I think a jib does make it easier to get a singlehander in the groove upwind, but I find self tacking ones a pain to get right upwind. No choice in a spinnaker boat theough.

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Several years ago, Dave Hall modified the controls on a 29er to allow single handed trapeze sailing. The boat was a awesome.
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Performance equalisation ....... Also do you think anyone's ever got it to work even partially well in a singlehander?
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Yes

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Post Options Post Options   Quote laser4000 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Nov 08 at 11:33pm
Originally posted by ifoxwell

Rumor has it that they are working on a hiking single hander with a spinni...

Has any one seen anything of it yet or know any more about it?

Ian



Like we really need another frikking single hander with a spinnaker.

If you want slow buy a vareo if you want fast with a trap buy a 700 or an MPS. If you like to fiddle/experiment then go DC

In this economy trying to establish a new class is a pretty futile exercise unless you've got Nick's marketing clout and even that would be a big ask. I mean with 2m unemployed (nearly) including some sailing friends whose gonna have 6 or so big ones to blow on a new toy apart from grumpf...


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Ah well, Nick, the best way of getting a singlehander upwind is of course 2 hulls and a wing mast. .
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Originally posted by Scooby_simon

Originally posted by JimC

Ah well, Nick, the best way of getting a singlehander upwind is of course 2 hulls and a wing mast. .

 

Nice one simon!!! 

 

If RS built something like the 300 with a kite i would buy one, not for 10k though!

 

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Originally posted by Scooby_simon

Originally posted by JimC

Ah well, Nick, the best way of getting a singlehander upwind is of course 2 hulls and a wing mast. .

And then save weight by leaving off the windward hull...

Seriously though you'll never find me criticising the As, which are one of the great boats, but don't fit well under the *Dinghy* topic
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to be honest, if there was a fast hiking singlehander for 5k ish i would go for it, but there are no fast hiker singlahanded boats (by fast i mean py less than 900 that is not a canoe)

I am lookin at new boats at the moment and the only boats that appeal are the 600, 700 and maybe musto.

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