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Did you manage to find out anything definitive?

Hope you don't mind me asking..

Honestly I find this event so fascinating, you are all bloody good jockeys
and at the top of the game, we can tell squat from still pics, but it's
obvious from that one you're wondering what's going on and the crew is
not entirely happy with the situation. They are stuffing it judging by the
jib luffing, I guess we all know that's what it's about out of the gun,
overwhelm the guy below whilst trying to maintain a cranked lee bow on
the guy above, in our lark we ensure that scenario with a bit of kinetic
energy (pump our arses off) so right there if you don't have the total boat
speed I can see how it goes rapidly pear shaped.

Those tubs obviously differ vastly from MPS's and it has to be totally
about the jib in an OD fleet given it's the element that will either nose
ahead and secure nice clean air or get shafted, so my question remains
did you eventually glean anything different to the way you were originally
setting it up?

I'd love to have been there, just to watch and learn, shame I didn't know
about it..
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for me i learnt more about spreaders and the effect they have on the rig how it can make the boat point higher go faster being more powered up totally new to me.but you sit there thinking i cant be this bad can i ? even when we came last in couple of races we was only two boat lenghts behind the next boat i sure sten will tell you same any mistake in your own class you drop maybe a couple places not five or ten .i found that the setting for me my crew that worked for us was one and half pins out and the same forward.i could not belive it was the same boat.

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I think the Xenons struggle to carry weight.

If I went again I'd get my wife to crew rather than a heavy Musto Skiffer.

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i think you are right there rick it did seem to be favouring the lighter people even in that breeze from last years one they were still at the front on the windy races .

 

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I was right about his crew, I note last year they both lost.

Also worthy of note Geoff Carveth has won it a few times which is more
than he managed in One Design Windsurfing Fleets which are
therefore clearly a more difficult arena

I notice the MPS crew Rick is smarting at using is obviously a lot less
useful than his Mrs

An interesting event, so is it an invite each year to all the individual class
champions, is that the general idea? Sort of the definitive race to sort out
who the governor is?

They should hold it on raceboards

Then you'd know for sure
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Originally posted by G.R.F.

I notice the MPS crew Rick is smarting at using is obviously a lot less useful than his Mrs  

A choice made on weight of course.

The event is open to current national chmpions who get invited to compete.

The Champion of Champions ...

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Originally posted by G.R.F.



I note young Ian Escrit is slipping a bit there he used to be handy in light
wind and tide I wonder what happened to him.

Graham - Ian says to tell 'that Fuller bloke' he'd have kicked your 4rse - as usual!!

You say you didn't know it was on - see previous threads from earlier years (also some more excellent  photos). Or search on google. Its every year at the same venue and time of year.

I've done the event a once or twice now and always enjoyed it - whether doing well or not. The competition is top class, and since the Xenon was introduced its also very fair. Topper deserve full credit for that. Virtually anyone attending the training is able to get the fast settings from coach Adam Bowers, although last year I changed mine after an OCS gave me the opportunity and had a 1st 2nd and 3rd in the next 3 races.

Nick is obviously consistently the best, even last year when he struggled (by his standards) he still managed 3rd. It was windier last year so not as potentially flukey as this, which makes his consistency particularly impressive.

The effort The Royal Corinthian put in is awesome, - and they treat competitors fantastically well - They deserve a huge thanks from all who sail. If you get invited go.

BTW I shared accomodation with the Laser reps and Steve Tylecote / Toby last year. The Laser guys were peeved off that they were behind both of us - a case of old head and skill beating youth and fitness? Not really, my crew was hiking like a ninja! I think they just train so much on a Laser that they can't just jump in a different boat and do well straight away. At least they stuck it out -unlike the the Greenhalgh bros who packed up and went home after a couple of bad results and an OCS.

Cheers

Keith (the older good looking one)!



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Originally posted by Hector

If you get invited go.




Not much chance of that.

Mind you I must be the current Alto reigning champion since there's only me
sailing it.

So now other than the MPS circuit what would be the dumbest group to take
on and win their nationals?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rockhopper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Oct 08 at 6:24pm

we had adam do the set up on ours last year and it was not good for us but ok for the others that used it.the bit i liked was when packing the boats away most of the masts had different setting.we came last last year but at least we sailed and finished each race.

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