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That looks like a fantastic event, and light winds and tide as well what a
bonus that would be..

Those boats look a bit cumbersome and do I detect a "What am I doing
sailing this hulk" kind of body language from some sectors I wonder?

Whatever, it's the same for everybody and whoever won it must be good.

Then there's the pics, are they not excellent, almost wallpaper on the
computer screen I love those ariel shots and the moody shot with all the
H's in a line in the sunset.

It must have been a privilege to have taken part.

I note young Ian Escrit is slipping a bit there he used to be handy in light
wind and tide I wonder what happened to him.
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Results ...

http://royalcorinthian.co.uk/result.php?race=2008-12-1-0

As far as I recall they did 5 races on Saturday; I guess on Sunday they got just one race in with only a few finishers; anyone know what happened on Sunday?

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Well that's a pretty convincing win, so, are those guys very very good

Or just good in the conditions

Or is the B14 class just more competitive than the rest.

Or are the skills of the washerwomen just more transferable to washing up
bowl boats?

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Nick Craig is multiple national and world champion for multiple classes Graeme.

I think its fair to say he is currently the most succesfull amature sailor out there!

Nick has only been sailing a B14 for the last year, and i think he jumped straight in to it at the front of the fleet!

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Originally posted by G.R.F.

Well that's a pretty convincing win, so, are those guys very very good

Or just good in the conditions

Or is the B14 class just more competitive than the rest.

Yes. Very, very good.

In any conditions.

Wouldn't think the B14 class is more or less competitive than most of the other classes there.

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In my wholly unscientific experience, the B14 fleet certainly seems to be better than, say, the Iso fleet. I don't feel the helm I sail with in the B14 is worse than the helm I had in the Iso- if anything, he's better- and I went from mid fleet Iso to back of the fleet B14.

But the truth is Nick is just an incredible sailor who puts in a huge amount of practice. Somehow.
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It was quite a convincing win in what must be tricky conditions, so I
guessed they must be good, don't forget the crew, it'll be a team action I'll
warrant, has he written anything? Tactical sailing book stuff, articles
anything like that I'd be interested to read?

Seems like the sort of bloke to listen to.

Then try your hand against.

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'laser4000' - Sorry to let you down! We were =7th overnight but blew our series with 2xDNFs dropping us to 13th.

Saturday was fantastic racing with 5 races on 'the light side of medium' say 6-11knots. Plenty for good racing with some pretty hard hiking still required in the Xenons. Probably a perfect wind for the event with the heavy teams not being able to out grunt the lightweights.

Sunday had one race and the wind dropped right off as the 6th boat sniggled through the finish line against the increasing tied. Other boats (N12, Enty,49er,Cherub) who  left the bank for the finish line drifted helplessly backwards. Time limit was that anyone over 15 mins after the winner gets DNF. Perhaps not a great rule in light winds and a strong tide?

I think the Xenons were a great equaliser with a mix of heavy and light teams through the results. They also equalise the various skill sets of the competitors being reasonably basic to sail and rig. A real testament of the philosophy of 'its not what you sail but how you sail it'. You can either blame the boat and be miserable or embrace the challenge.

The event as always proved very interesting with Champions forced out of their own class comfort zone having to cope with new challenges - assy kites, having crews & jibs, having to hike etc, not to mention the venue.  A humbling experience for most at some point, where champions who are used to winning having to fight hard to maintain positions down the fleet. Competition was harsh; in addition to the 'moving carpet' effect of the tide there seemed to be another moving carpet effect - that of the fleet which from top to bottom kept moving around the course at pace and was often very tightly packed. Any error - a bad rounding, loosing 'the groove' or stepping to far into the tide - was normally punished by loosing not one but maybe a tranch of 4 boats at a time.

I thought all the yoof classes (Feva,Pico,Laser4.7, Mirror, Cadet) put in a creditable perforance with several top ten results and notably the 4.7s leading the last race before finishing 3rd.

Man of the match in my view; National 12 sailors Graham Camm & Zoe Ballantyne in 3rd overall who dont normally sail a spinnaker class and hiked their lightweight socks off.

Well done to Topper for doing a great job providing 30 identical brand new boats and other sponsors, Hyde, Musto, Selden and RCYC for running a great event again.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote G.R.F. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Oct 08 at 9:54pm
Peter, I noticed on one of the start pics, not sure who it was, but someone
has claimed the pin end and clearly is off an away, is there the usual 'pecking
order psychology" does everyone give those guys room?

One design fleets are all about start psychology where I come from, I
assume it's the same for boats, is it?
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