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5,3,1 go

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Originally posted by tgruitt

5,4,1 slow handicap, med handicap, fast handicap, lasers, laser II

I can't stand 6,3 go!

5 fleets using 541 that is a lot of flag changes for the RO and also a long sequence. How often does the RO get it wrong?

Also why do you not like 6,3 go. A lot of clubs use this as it is easier for the RO and racers to follow? 

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5 min 4min 1 min (with a bell at 10 mins)

Single start

Shore based

Flags

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At Thornbury SC we use 5,4,1 sequence with three starts for the first race, Fast H'cap, Slow H'cap, Cruisers.

Second race only for dinghy fleets.

We have a shorebased line, and we use flags. Due to the failing eyesight of our members lights have been discussed on numerous occasions, but to get high enough intesity bulbs to be seen in all conditions would be prohibitively expensive.

Since changing from 6,3 we've had little or no problems, the only difficult bit is trying to hoist two flags and drop one at the same time if you have an OCS in the first fleet.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote tgruitt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Sep 08 at 9:14am
Originally posted by Contender443

Originally posted by tgruitt

5,4,1 slow handicap, med
handicap, fast handicap, lasers, laser III can't stand 6,3 go!


5 fleets using 541 that is a lot of flag changes for the RO and also a long
sequence. How often does the RO get it wrong?


Also why do you not like 6,3 go. A lot of clubs use this as it is easier for
the RO and racers to follow? 



The go in the next classes 5 minute, they never it it wrong, it isn't that hard!
I don't like 6,3 because i like the 1 min signal, I have only raced with a 6.3
twice before and felt like I didn't know what was going on.
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We use 6-3 go for club racing and 5-4-1-go for open events.

With the lake being quite small if we used 5-4-1-go with a potential 4 starts it means the first fleet off would be in to their second lap by the time the last fleet started (messy). 6-3-go allow us to get all fleets off in a maximum of 12 minutes (general recalls aside).

We use a mix of shore based and committee boat based with flags (again the start lines are short so no issue with this).

As an RO I prefer this plus we have a timing box that boes 6-3-go and can handle multiple fleets.
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The Medway Yacht Club uses the 5-4-1-go time sequence as described in the Racing Rules of Sailing. Because we do not have a regular race officer and because flags are difficult to see when used for shore based starts we use 150W security lamps controlled by a computer to make the sound and visual signals so that all the race officer needs to do is click a button if he wants to order a postponement, individual recall, general recall etc. with automatic re-scheduling. The system can also log the finishing times and print out the results as soon as the race ends.

 

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5,4,1,Go

Race 1 = all-in novice. Race 2 = Fast, Laser, Slow. Race 3 = All-in

Shore for signals, Boat for line

Lights

5,4,1,go makes it much easier to sync your watch or even busk it if your watch goes blank on the way to the line (like last night).



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we use 5,4,1 go from a little dory with flags all operated by the race officer.

we only have one start per race as we only get 7or8 or boats.

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6-3-0
Multiple
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