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paul jones
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Topic: New Zealand to join Team GB Posted: 07 Sep 08 at 3:29pm |
You would think we would learn our lesson. After losing nearly all our young female windsurfers when Australian Natasha Sturges joined Team GB it seems that we are ready to do the same with the RS:X class. It seems that J P Tobin of New Zealand will be given top Lottery funding and funding allowance from the RYA. What does this say to our young up and coming windsurfers such as Richard Hamilton and Elliot Carney who have put their education on hold in order to pursue their olympic dream. In 2003 Dom Tidey was dropped by the RYA and earlier this year Leo McCallin (Nick Dempsey's long time training partner) was also dropped by the RYA. Now we can see why. |
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anaalmeida
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Sep 08 at 3:58pm |
I have just joined the Y&Y Forum and I cannot belive what I am reading. My children love windsurfing and are hoping to get into the squad at some time in the future and hopefully qualify for the Olympics, I tell them that the only way is to practice to be the best, but if being the best means nothing at all to the RYA and they then bring in someone from overseas I think I will try to get my children into some other sport where they will have more chance in following their dream Someone needs to seriously talk to whoever makes these decisions. We have proved this year in China that Team GB are the best why look oversea for team members when we obviously have the talent at home????????
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paul jones
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Sep 08 at 4:18pm |
My son is already in Team 15 and this has really upset him. He thought he was the next Nick Dempsey and has not been on the water since we found this out 3 weeks ago. We have some of the best windsurfers in the world what is the RYA thinking of.
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Sep 08 at 7:30pm |
Has J P Tobin got dual nationality?
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paul jones
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Sep 08 at 7:42pm |
I have no idea, but I do know that he has been sailing for NewZealand for years and has not made the cut for any of the Olympics and now he has been dropped by his own country he wants to come here and take the funding which should be allocated to our own youth sailors. It should not be allowed. There should be some rules that say if you have sailed for one country then you should not be able to change tack as it were. There is nothing to stop him coming here, collecting our knowledge and then returning to New Zealand and passing it over. |
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 Sep 08 at 9:44pm |
I am sure there are nationality rules on these issues. Why not get the facts before sounding off here? There are many examples of athletes changing nationality, for example in sailing Mitch Booth won medals for AUS and sailed in China for NED ... |
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GraemeB
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Sep 08 at 8:43am |
The RYA want to win.......if it means using dual nationality they'll do it. One thing young aspiring sailors need to learn about the Squad system and elite sailing is that if you don't make the grade they you get dropped like a stone. |
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paul jones
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Sep 08 at 3:23pm |
I thought this was a forum which was open for discussion. It is my opinion that the lottery funding should be used for the youth of this country or else we will end up with a massive gap. The New Zealander they are importing is already 31 years old and has achieved nothing in olympic terms. The only reason he is coming here is because he has been dropped by the New Zealand Yachting Association. He will be 35 by the time of the next olympics and that is quite old in the windsurfing field. If he hasn't made it by now, then it is in my opinion that we are throwing good money down the drain. Money in fact that could and should be used for the likes on Richard Hamilton and Elliot Carney.
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Sep 08 at 3:35pm |
Of course you are welcome to your thoughts but he may be as British as you & me ... so that just leaves us with the age issue and I would agree that the youth should be developed as a priority. The RYA are pretty good at getting medals so I am sure their processes and methods are sound. I am sure if you asked the RYA Windsurfing Coach what the score is they would give a fair statement. |
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paul jones
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Sep 08 at 3:48pm |
No, he is not as British as me, I was born in this country and would have absolutely no wish to sail for another country. The age issue is of paramount importance considering he has produced nothing so far. I am also aware that the RYA are good at getting medals but I would remind you that we have been down this road with the girl windsurfer from Australia. Not only did we fund Natasha Sturges we also funded her brother who she insisted was her coach. We lost almost all of our young females and I can see the same thing happening here. Natasha did not perform at the Olympics and soon returned home to Australia. I have asked the windsurfing coach, who said he had no knowledge of it. Perhaps it is still supposed to be a secret. |
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