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Originally posted by laser4000


if you turn on the tv and watcht the other sports they all have either heats, qualifying or knockout and then you have a 'winner takes all final' - .e.g. track and field, rowing, cycling etc etc..

Archery, shooting, the throwing comps on the field, gymanstics, diving, equestrian, modern pantahlon, decathlon, triathlon are I think all events which depend on a cumulative score like sailing does... As does the often quoted Formula one of course. Its not that hard a topic. There's an argument for using a high score points system not a low one of course.

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Originally posted by laser4000

The problem it generates is that you then get Simmonds having to explaing "it doesn't matter if Perce/Bart finish in 5th provided they are ahead of the swedes they win gold"...which to us makes sense..to 'armchair fan' doesnt..

Maybe doesn't help make it thrilling, though I think most sports fans can cope with cumulative scores.

If we really 'have' to spoil our sport at its highest level by making it more TV friendly (and I really wonder if sailing can ever be that), then I think the earlier suggestion of a pursuit race is not a bad one. It's what they were doing in the final run in the Modern Decathlon, I noticed, and while one could argue forever about the correct separation between starts to allow for the previously accumulated points, the situation is clear for all and the excitement undeniable.

You'd need a big course, however, with minimal lapping and lots of angles to allow for windshifts. In fact I'd like to watch it, not as a medal-decider but as a bonus fun event, maybe. To add contention you could even add PY and mix the classes! But I'm going too far...

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In the modern pentathlon the scores obtained from the first 4 events gives you a score which you carry in to the run. The first one over the line gets the gold. Easy to understand, why not in sailing?

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Originally posted by nutonthetiller

...score which you carry in to the run. The first one over the line gets the gold

Its an interesting idea: score on total elapsed time rather than places, and make the last race a pursuit. The only concern is that the fastest would start first in the pursuit, so it might be a rather processional race - indeed Ben Ainslie might well finish before the last folks have started.

Tactics would change quite a lot if the races were on total elapsed time, not places - much less tacking to a safe covering position and that sort of thing.

The Whitbread round the world used to score like that but they abandoned it. I think the trouble was that after 6 or 7 legs people got so far ahead that it was almost game over. I think it would probably work best with no more than two or three race series so no-one could get that far ahead - like skiing events.

It would be an interesting thing to try for a club series or a one day event like the Tiger trophy... Bags I not be on the committee boat if there are 100 starters though!

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