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    Posted: 27 Aug 08 at 10:38am

Yeah if it was 25 to 30 knots it should have been abandoned, but like Dylan said, we've raced and medal raced in a lot more so it's not surprising.

And yeah, I think you're right about the masts being faulty.  The one we broke in kiel certainly shouldn't have gone.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote golfdane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Aug 08 at 10:21am

The weather prognosis for when the medal race was on:

http://www.dmi.dk/dmi/vindogvejr49er.png

From the danish meteorological institute: http://www.dmi.dk/dmi/49er_guld_i_hoej_soe

Start time: 16:35

Duration for the leading boat: 31:31  (add 13:51 for the #8 BRA boat).

Windspeeds (vindhastighed in DK) between 13-17 m/s (25-33 knots). Based on this, should the race probably have been abandoned.

 

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the conditions where not any worse than the holland 49er medal race or even some of the racing at the 49er europeans in Palma. The difference was that everyone was really light because it was China, all the 49er guys said that it was not the conditions but there weight and normally it would not have been a problem.

As for there mast breaking it was bad luck but was it also that they had not tested that mast in enough breeze. Sounds like it was one of the newer masts which have been breaking all year and they should have realised that the new bottem sections are crap. The brit squad have all broken 1 each and some 2 which have had less than 2 weeks sailing on them, compared to the slightly older sticks which are doing fine as usual. I certainly would not have gone to the games using a bottem section that was less than a year old this time round.

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Yep, it's complete luck whether you break a mast in the 49er in that wind speed.  We did ours in kiel. just pulled a bearaway in 30 knots and watched it crumple.  We did nothing wrong, and had normal rig settings for the conditions.  it was just bad luck.  When it's as windy as it was in beijing, with such big waves, 49ers really shouldn't be on the water.  They should all take out Picos instead....
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Post Options Post Options   Quote golfdane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Aug 08 at 12:30pm

Originally posted by RyanV49er

I agree with Massimo in a way.  They shouldn't have sailed the 49ers in those conditions...  When guys break their masts, that's the time to call it a day.  I feel that there was pressure on the PRO to get a result after the delayed medal race the day before for the finns, so he forced it through...

Yeah... It became pretty much a game of chance. The waves were the real problem for a boat that small. A skilled crew might be capsizing less, but damage to equipment is not something you can control that much. If you are unlucky, it only takes one fall.

 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Phil eltringham Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Aug 08 at 11:07am
CAS have thrown out the protest, original result from the day stands, the Danes have the gold, end of story, thankfully!!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote RyanV49er Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Aug 08 at 9:57am
I agree with Massimo in a way.  They shouldn't have sailed the 49ers in those conditions...  When guys break their masts, that's the time to call it a day.  I feel that there was pressure on the PRO to get a result after the delayed medal race the day before for the finns, so he forced it through...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Chew my RS Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Aug 08 at 7:14am
The Danes borrowed the croatian boat and, despite a protest, an appeal and a hearing at the CAS, the Danes won gold, the spanish silver and the Germans bronze.  Italy were 4th.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote redback Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Aug 08 at 12:10am
Does anybody know what the result was?  I can't remember who borrowed who's boat.  Were they disqualified?  I just can't find a proper report anywhere.
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