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winging it
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Topic: What classes will survive ? Posted: 20 Jun 08 at 9:48pm |
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And next year the worlds are in Denmark, also accessible.
Have a look at the UK class website: British Contender Association the International Contender website and there's also a yahoo group: contender forum |
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the same, but different...
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timeintheboat
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 Jun 08 at 10:09am | |
It does look that a class will have a better chance of surviving in the long term if it is a single hander.
Most of the kids these days want their own boat and they want to helm. What are they going to be sailing in 10-20yrs time? Why bother with all the hassle of trying to get regular crew when - if your water has the room - you get all the same toys with an MPS or RS700. |
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Like some other things - sailing is more enjoyable when you do it with someone else
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mossman
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 Jun 08 at 10:48am | |
I’m intrigued why it seems to be recognized that the Vareo offers something not offered by other boats (even if it is not thought that it does it particularly well) and yet a number of people believe it is a class that will die out. I would have thought it was in a good position to survive at least until someone else does what the Vareo does, and does it better. As a recent purchaser of a Vareo I am obviously biased (and personally I think it does what it does very well – but then, as a relative beginner, what do I know). Anyway I am very happy with my new boat and I hope it has a great future. |
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gordon
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 Jun 08 at 11:25am | |
For my part, I am intirgued by the number of people who believe that a class becomes popular and then survives because of the intrinsic qualities of the design. I believe this is a minor factor, far less important than the quality of the people who run the class, especially in the early days, and the sailors who are drawn to compete in the class. There are lots of good boats out there that have faded away into an undeserved oblivion, simply because there was no-one around at the right time to promote and run the class. For instance - would the Laser have become the world-leader that it is without the marketing and production strategy that accompanied it? All of which was revolutionary in the early 70's. How many of the RS fleet would become popular classes if they were being built by a small boatbuilder without the marketing power of RS boats? Would the Star (the best (only) 2 man boat for heavy weights) still be in the Olympics without the strength of the class association and their close links with the great and good? If ex-Tornado sailors had worked their way into the inner cicles of ISAF, would we still have a multihull in the Games?
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Jimbob
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 Jun 08 at 11:55pm | |
you only have to look at the Laser to see what is needed to survive.
1 relatively cheap (but should be cheaper) 2 simple to rig and launch, 3 easy to sail at a low level of competence, 4 yet very difficult to sail at the highest level, 5 competition everywhere you go (a function of the other points) 6 great fun downwind when windy (although hard work to get upwind) 7 great in strong winds big seas 8 easy to transport wherever, 9 Many Open meetings if you want that (again a function of the other points) 10 multiple rigs for all ages, weights and standard of sailors. The only thing missing is a trapeze option |
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allanorton
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 22 Jun 08 at 7:23pm | |
Isn't that TASI? |
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JimC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 22 Jun 08 at 9:57pm | |
And yet very many of the classes that have lasted a long time have few of those points, and every class which has attempted to be the new LAser has failed... |
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Guest
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 22 Jun 08 at 10:24pm | |
What classes have attempted to be the new Laser? |
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tmoore
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 22 Jun 08 at 10:25pm | |
byte (?) - very similar in hull and same sort of size rig as the radial
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tmoore
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 23 Jun 08 at 12:33pm | |
when i sailed one at the club i remember the mainsheet being very highly loaded. the boat also felt much too short. bar that it seemed a great little boat which was easy to move about on shore. possibly the boat i tried was rigged poorly?
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