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JimC
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Topic: In ye' olden days... Posted: 29 Mar 08 at 7:59am |
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Loads? I doubt that. Plenty of races that have been knocked on the head bcause the organisers can't raise the enthusiasm with enough peiople to make a decent fist of running it any more. I don't know of any that have had a HS ban. I remember the Popmpey perisher got closed partly because of the sheer hassle of organising 100 boats shutting out half of Old Portsmouth on a Sunday in winter, but that was off water bureacracy, not on... You have got to compare apples with apples too. Back in the 30s an International 14 had about the sail area of an RS200 on a bigger heavier and stabler boat. Capsizes were rare, they didn't push as hard and they just didn't need the safety cover we do now in our edgier boats... If you restricted your round Sovereaign race to Wayfarers or something you'd hardly need the level of cover you do with performance boats, but a Wayfarer was a pretty hot boat by 30s standards... |
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Stefan Lloyd
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 29 Mar 08 at 8:55am | |
I've crewed and skippered boats racing around the Isle of Wight probably a couple of dozen times. The south side is actually a long distance, a long way from any shelter and has sections which can generate seriously nasty conditions e.g. the overfalls off St Cats.I also used to take part regularly in long-distance dinghy races, although I no longer do so. In my judgement, I wouldn't run a race for dinghies around the Island. It's too far, too exposed and not enough bolt-holes. People quite frequently sail dinghies and boards around on an informal basis, and that's fine. Their choice, their risk. At least one dinghy (Wayfarer) doing so in recent years has required rescue (basically deteriorating weather and exhaustion).
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 29 Mar 08 at 9:56am | |
agreed Jim, not banned by the health and safety mob but made near impossible to run because of the modern health and safety requirements. I wasn't sailing in the "good old days" so I don't know how dangerous these races were but it does seem like some of the spirit of adventure has been lost. rightly or wrongly Good thread. Edited by GK.LaserII |
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Roy Race
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 30 Mar 08 at 7:09pm | |
I think Number 1 in that pic is 'meant to be' a Fireball.
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Rupert
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 30 Mar 08 at 7:21pm | |
As far as I'm aware (I don't have that edition, but do have the 1973 version with a different cover, so know what boats were around) it is a Swift Catamaran. Certainly not a monohull, and the Thai cats had disappeared by then, and the Shearwater features on the 1973 cover, and has a much more eliptical rig than the very tapered Swift.
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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PeterV
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 30 Mar 08 at 8:12pm | |
I wouldn't agree it's a Swift. The early Swifts had a very raked mast mounted right at the front of the bridge deck, later ones moved the foot aft but neither version had the boom overhanging the transom or had that knuckle on the bow. In nearly every respect Swifts were a scaled down Shearwater, so if it doesn't look like a Shearwater then it probably isn't a Swift either. I would doubt if it really is an actual design, but as the others are it's possible, in which case I'd agree that it could be a MacAlpine-Downie cat.
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Mark Jardine
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 31 Mar 08 at 9:27am | |
The Jardine twins are my dad and uncle, Stuart and Adrian. They're both still sailing; Stuart in XOD and J/24, Ado in XOD and Folkboat. I'll be crewing for my Dad most of the season! I echo the thoughts of what a great thread! |
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sargesail
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 31 Mar 08 at 10:57am | |
Agreed. Fantastic blast from the blast! My Mum's cousin Clifford Norbury also features in that article as a crew. I've still had no joy with the Javelin wetsuit girl tho. |
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Chew my RS
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 31 Mar 08 at 11:01am | |
Are they not the current (or very recent) national XOD champs? I'm sure my dad sailed with one (or both) in the 60's when he was in the army and rated him/them very highly. Can I have some bonus points please Mark! |
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MikeBz
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 31 Mar 08 at 11:05am | |
Well I'm sure you're not the only one... |
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