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Post Options Post Options   Quote stuarthop Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Feb 05 at 9:33pm
they're good to learn in but are very quickly outgrown as the sailor progresses

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Phil eltringham Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Feb 05 at 6:23pm
I have to agree with moomin on Pico's, for teaching they are the best boat of that size, far better all in all than toppers, or anything else that anyone has tried to invent. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote moomin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Feb 05 at 12:42pm

Originally posted by stuarthop

 plastic boats suck havnt sailed a good 1 yet

Plastic boats have their place, they might not be the fastest boats in the world but are ideal for sailing schools, beginners, beach boats.  There's been a lot of pico bashing going on as well, having worked in a big sailing school, picos are much easier to handle for a beginner and much less hassle on the maintenance side.

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 plastic boats suck havnt sailed a good 1 yet

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Post Options Post Options   Quote carshalton fc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Jan 05 at 8:34pm

the vago is never as fast as a 4000if it was i would buy one as it is only like 4000.  but for that sort of money you could buy a very good 4000 with several sets of sails!  and it is plastic and dont even get me started about a plastic boat it might be good for teaching mediam large adults how to trapeze and us the kite!!!

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The Laser bloke at the Boat Show reckoned it was aimed at the gap between the Pico and the 2K with the small rig on or between the 2K and the 4K with the big rig.  So the only way it's going to be faster than the 4K is if it's tied onto the back of a RIB at the time...
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i heard someone say that it will be quicker than a 4000, fat chance? am i right?
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Hmmm, relative to a Laser 2 (for which masts, rudders etc. are still available thanks partly to pressure from UK class association - IF YOU SAIL A BOAT JOIN THE CLASS ASSOCIATION):
- only 0.4m^2 more upwind area despite a more modern (?) well, more recent, rig design
- shorter
- beamier (but just sticky-out sides, so waterline beam could be similar?)
- 'suprising fast' to quote the designer (so's a Laser '2' at times....)
- pivoting centreboard (more fun on a stoney beach)
- weight?  ahh..... nothing quoted
Not going to set the world on fire is it, but I suppose the schools / holiday camps (sorry centres) will buy it (if the price is right)?
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for that kina price range, u CAN get a 29er!!!!
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