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Poll Question: Was it right removing the catamaran from the 2012 Olympic regatta?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Lukepiewalker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Dec 07 at 10:59am
No reason why they couldn't supply Tornadoes too. Used to supply Finns, then just supplied the hulls and in 2000 you could bring your own.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote tmoore Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Dec 07 at 1:26pm

but wouldnt that mean competitors are sailing with hulls, foils, sails (and other things?) which they are not used to. doesnt that defeat the purpose of having multiple builders, unless they all have to say what they want beforehand. rather complicated in my opinion, but a possibility.

as for the one design thing, jimc, it seems you are technically correct. i guess it all comes down to how you define 'one design'.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Lukepiewalker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Dec 07 at 3:20pm
Does the same not apply to all the other boats, if people are shipping Australian topmasts around the world, Hyde Sails across the atlantic and so forth for lasers. And I'm sure some 49ers are considered superior to others.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jon Emmett Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Dec 07 at 3:29pm
Originally posted by Lukepiewalker

Does the same not apply to all the other boats, if people are shipping Australian topmasts around the world, Hyde Sails across the atlantic and so forth for lasers. And I'm sure some 49ers are considered superior to others.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Phil eltringham Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Dec 07 at 4:32pm

For supplied boats at the olympics I believe (correct me if i'm wrong) they are issued to teams randomly at the start of the event for its duration. 

In the case of the 49er the multiple builders were primarily to ease world supply and to increase build capacity. 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Lukepiewalker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Dec 07 at 4:38pm
Exactly, but my point is that if you are worried about people sailing with equipment they aren't used to, surely that is already happening in the boats that are supplied? I have no issues with there being multiple manufacturers of 49ers around the globe.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote BarnsieB14768 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Jan 08 at 7:28pm

Major problem with supply of items via the event organiser is quality control.

There have in the past been some real mares at World Championship level where boats have leaked, delaminated, masts not 100% etc. Also if an open class for supply like the 49er, if builder supplier as in 2000 at Sydney, you do get varients. Best policy is strict measurement programs and close scrutiny of kit. Keeps the evnt costs down and enables the competitor to have familiarity in kit. Give a big team like Team GBR 2 - 3 days working on a boat and it will be very different to any other in the fleet so the point of supplied boats is lost.

Its elite sailing and accept it. It will always cost and so it should within reason as the time/training/travel investment is far greater. Been there, done it, got very close but Sponsors had major cash flow problem. So stopped as running on empty and spent the next 2 years digging myself out of the mess. Best policy is do the youth program and go and get some real quality sailing at someone elses expense and sail dinghies as a hobby.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Lukepiewalker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Jan 08 at 9:15pm
The rules on what competitors can change on the supplied boats at the olympics is quite tightly controlled. Of course having said that can I find any evidence of that, harumph...

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http://www.ifds.org/olympics2004/measurementregsd2.pdf
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