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i may be very wrong, but sailing a byte at 40kg, umm are you sure???
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Liz you could take a look at the Lightning (by Mark Giles). Sue Gilmore the  class secretary sails one at Oxford succesfully as do a couple of other people of your size/weight and she is pretty small. Might be worth making contact with her for a chat.

It is a nice boat boat with a performance about the same as the Solo , it has an unstayed mast and controls that work.

As I am a fat old git I have no axe to grind on this one!

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Originally posted by sailor girl

i may be very wrong, but sailing a byte at 40kg, umm are you sure???

yup i agree with sailor girl- 40kg is far too light for a byte, far too light for a topper or similar boat, maybe an oppy...

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You'll be fine, don't get too hung up on the competitive weight band, unless you're racing seriously. Of course don't take that too literally and get a finn or whatever...
I sail a 600 at 63kg, and despite being overpowered in a force three I can still sail at a reasonable level. It's all down to technique!

have sailed the Byte with the old rig, and providing you have all the race rig and mainsheet with 5:1 purchase I think it is then you'll have no problems.
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make sure your heavy enough though, holding the sail might not be the problem its your weight.

and 45kg is the top of the recomended wait band for oppy racing

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what about a splash? optimum crew weight 48-75kg apparently.
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i agree with alex c. weight isnīt the most important aspect in sailing business. itīs needed of course, but you can have fun and can sail succsessful with a low weight and the right trimm technic.
i donīt know how you all buy your boats in britain as a brit, but in germany you can test sail the boat you wanna buy.

i always wanted to know with which boats your childs learn how to sail in the uk. iīve heard less about sailors who learned it in the optimist, which is the standart in germany.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Harry44981! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Dec 04 at 10:20pm
There are rya approved classes for juniors to learn in : topper, oppy, cadet and mirror which are finacially supported by the rya, but many people go a different route. I think weight is a huge issue if you want to sail even slightly competitively/ have fun. trust me it is NOT fun if youre a begginer and your in a boat youre too light in and cant handle, it can really put people off competitive sailing i've seen it happen before. Some companies let you test sail the boat.
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Guys Guys (and gal)

Let me tell you a few things that your coaches probably don't.

1)In most if not all adult classes maybe 10% of the fleet is in with even an outside chance of winning the championships. The rest are there because they enjoy sailing and racing. If you're not in that 10% its better to be in a boat that you enjoy sailing more than in a boat you might finish 3 places higher in. That way you have more fun. For most people it really is the taking part and not the winning.

2) Weight sensitivity in classes is relative... Its not about some magic weight that enables you to be powered up in some particular wind strength. The powered up state varies drmatically in different classes. Actually if the boat is weight sensitive then the right weight to be is exactly the average for the fleet, nothing else. In fact the "correct weight" for the Europe Olympic fleet was different to that for a mixed male and female series for exactly that reason!

3) Righting moment increases in proportion to your weight, but heeling moment increases to the square of windspeed. What this means in practice is that if you're around 20% lighter than the average for your fleet its like sailing in 1 wind force stronger than all the rest. So better too light than too heavy, especially if you're in a boat that has a well designed modern rig that will depower readily and in a controlled manner (ie not Laser, not Topper, but probably Europe and new Byte) Obviously don't go over the top, but if you're a 10kg underweight in a Byte you're going to be no more overpowered than right weight sailors in a 49er anyway.

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Originally posted by sailor girl

i may be very wrong, but sailing a byte at 40kg, umm are you sure???

err - I weigh 50kgs not 40kgs... if it was my weight you were talking about

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