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    Posted: 29 Dec 04 at 4:24pm

I originally learnt to sail on a dingy before yacht racing in my local area and have now decided to go back to dinghy sailing - as I've forgotten most of the practical stuff on how to sail! I want to buy my own dinghy in the next few months, however seem to have hit a brick wall in deciding what to get...

I'm after a single-handed dinghy (so I don't have to rely on anyone else to sail). I wouldn't call myself a brilliant sailor by any means - but I do have quite a bit of experience crewing dinghies. I need a boat that I can learn from and a boat that is fun yet rewarding and challenging.

But... I'm 5ft 1" and weigh about 50kgs - when I suggest possible boats to friends their immediate reply is 'you'll be overpowered' or 'you're not big enough'...

... I also don't want a topper or a topaz uno or anything like that...

Is there a boat out there for me  ??? I sure hope so!

Any advice is greatfully received!

(p.s. the boats I suggested include: Laser/RS600/RS700/RS Vareo/Europe).

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BTW - hello everyone - I'm new on here and am looking forward to chatting to you all in the future!
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How about a Byte with the new rig, Laser radial or 4.7.  I think you will certainly be over powered with your previous suggestions.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Harry44981! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Dec 04 at 4:35pm
4.7 rig not a radial. Why not a topper? You are the rightish weight (if a bit small) for a topper, and their is a good adult fleet, but if you don't want that i'd go for a 4.7- that's if you want a national racing fleet. if you dont the byte c2 looks really good and will prob. be a lot nicer to sail.

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I'd never even thought of a Byte! Just checking it out now - thanks for the suggestions! (Also apologies - I think I started this thread in the wrong section - there's another section on buying boats!)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Spot192 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Dec 04 at 4:38pm
i would buy europe. im about 1.64m tall (i dont know it in feet) and weighing 54kg. at the moment im sailing an int14, but befor that i was sailing an europe. it was much fun and because of the differnt masts you can choose the one that suits you. another pro for the europe is the price. because of the stupid idea to make the radial  the women class and kick it out the boats are much chaeper. curse of the olimpic boats is the price too expensive..

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Ooo - I am going to have to do some investigating and decision making over the next few months! I'm looking forward to that! (My experience with motorbikes is that I can only fit on 2 supersport bikes that don't have to be lowered by 10cm - my size is a real issue - so it's nice to have a choice of 3 or 4 dinghies!)

Price is also kind of an issue so if the Europes are coming down in price that's definitely a positive - although if the perfect dinghy is out there and I fall in love price doesn't matter soooo much! Thanks for all your replies

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You need to sail a Europe first - they have a spectacularly low boom so are not everyone's cup of tea. But nice boat as is the Byte. Lot of people right now suddenly don't want Europes - bargains to be had! The Laser 4.7 seems too out of proportion rig to hull to me for an adults boat.

Of course you *could* sail an International Moth at that weight, but it doesn't sound as if you are ready for that yet! The British Moth might be an option if you are at the sort of club that suits them, and if you are going to sail inland then you could probably manage a Laser Radial if you don't mind being blown away when its windy.
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Hi Liz,

If you are just getting back into dinghy sailing, my advice would be to not buy a boat just yet.  You have not said where you you live or which, if any, club you will be sailing at.  I think that it's a good idea to find a club first and see what boats are sailed there. You could even get a crewing job for a while until you get back into the sport.  At your size and weight it should be easy to get a few trips out with people in different classes of boat.

If you don't belong to a club, it would be a good idea to visit as many clubs as possible in your area, at least once, and check out what they have to offer in terms of sailing, racing, classes, facilities, friendliness, training, social side, etc., etc.  It's also a good idea to check out how many boats are regularly racing and look at result sheets to get a broader idea on numbers and classes. You may find a class that appeals to you which is regularly sailed at the club, if you do find one then you will have someone to race against, give you advice, etc.

Another option, if you can afford it, would be to go on holiday to a place like Minorca Sailing where you could try lots of different boats and get instruction and support. Finally, if you can, try to visit The Dinghy Show at Alexander Palace in London on 5th or 6th March 2005, when you will get the chance to get up to date on all that is new in dinghy sailing and talk to people with similar interests. If you buy the Dinghy Show preview edition of Y & Y then you will get the chance to study what will be on display at the show before you go. The edition comes out about two or three weeks prior to the show.  Whatever you do, don't buy a boat, particularly a second hand one, without taking someone with you who is reliable and knowledgable about the class and can check the boat out and can give you sound advice before you commit yourself..

I hope that this helps.

Ian  (Yorkshire Dales S.C.)



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Post Options Post Options   Quote sailor girl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Dec 04 at 10:51pm
Hey Liz, i sail a byte with the old rig     i weigh just uder 8 stone and struggle like hell, and i do hike bl**dy hard! it's definatly worth trying different boats out in different wind strengths before u make ur decesion.
GoodLuck    and if u want to know anything about the byte dont hessitate to ask
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