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Hi,

i had some spare time a year ago and i compiled the below list.  the reason i did this is to determine the best dinghy for me.  The values that i used are obviously open to scrutiny and i am sure some people out there will disagree with the values used.  I hope you find this informative

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Weight Recommendations for Combined Helm & Crew Weight

Boat

Stone

lbs

kg

Mirror

15 to 18*

210 to 252

95 to 114

Laser 2

18 to 20*

252 to 280

114 to 127

29er

18 to 22

253 to 308

115 to 140*

470

18.5 to 22.8

260 to 320*

117 to 145

FireBall

20 to 25*

280 to 350

127 to 153

B14

20 to 25

286 to 352

130 to 160*

I14

23.5 to 25.7

330 to 360*

149 to 163

49er

22.7 to 25.9

319 to 363

145 to 165*

505

23 to 30*

321 to 418

146 to 190

Star

31

440

199

1 stone = 14lbs   * = Route Recommendation
1lbs = 0.4535kg
Average Weight of Man by Age

Age

lbs

kg

 

20

160

73

 

30

175

80

 

40

180

82

 

50

185

84

 

60

182

83

 

70

180

82

Average Weight of Women by Age

Age

lbs

kg

 

20

130

59

 

30

140

64

 

40

148

67

 

50

152

69

 

60

155

70

 

70

147

67

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Glenn,

Thanks for the stats. Now all I have to do is drop 14kg and I'll be average.  But then again I always knew that I was above average

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Post Options Post Options   Quote gordon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jan 05 at 6:56pm

The weight list just goes to prove that dinghy sailing has taken a wrong turn somewhere and become a sport for small people...the only options in the list for 2 average 40ish men sailing together are the 505 and the Star (not a dinghy!)

Is it any wonder that dinghy sailing is declining and sailors are migrating to the keelboat and cruiser fleets.

Is it not time to start protesting - a 100kg+ sit in at the Dinghy Show perhaps! We can all sit on the sidedecks of the dwarf classes and show everyone just how fragile they are!

 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote redback Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jan 05 at 7:10pm

Yes I feel a bit agrieved even though I sail a 4000 which carries weight well.  If you look at the 4000 weight equalisation chart http://www.laser4000.org.uk/docs/rackchart.pdf

you'll see that at about 89kg (in kit) makes me heavy for a helm.  I suspect the chart was produced for people without kit or the numbers were dug up 20 years ago.  These days most blokes are taller than my 5' 10" and when they get older they're going to be off the scale.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Pierre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jan 05 at 8:15pm
Well I thank the good Lord I sail an Osprey....I'm stuffed everywhere else
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Brian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jan 05 at 9:21pm
whose into the character assasination now? and i dont want to join fastsail to look at women in wetsuits? that is the complete opposite of what i said???
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Chris 249 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jan 05 at 9:53pm
 Does that chart of the general population (which includes many inactive and overweight people) reflect the dinghy sailing population, who are generally fitter and more active?

Can we use it the other way around? Can I turn it sideways and prove that since I weigh about 76kg, I am statistically proven to be still 25 years old???

Can larger sailors ever bring up with subject without using derogatory terms like "dwarf" and "midget"????

Since it seems they can't stop insulting lighter sailors, can we in return call any multiclass association for them "Fatsail"?????


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Pierre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jan 05 at 10:33pm

Hi Chris

yes

yes

no

yes

 

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Originally posted by Chris 249

 

Since it seems they can't stop insulting lighter sailors, can we in return call any multiclass association for them "Fatsail"?????


I don't mind, but some of the smaller fireball sailors might take issue.

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Nice one Chris. I'm 10kg under the "average" weight for my age. All you Fatsailors should stop insulting people who take care and pride in their health.
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