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Topic: Which Asymmetric for teenagers? Posted: 12 Jun 07 at 10:15pm |
if your on a budget you cant wrong with a laser 5000 or 4000, im 16 and i wanted a 29erxx but i couldnt even afford a normal 29er so i picked up a good 5000 for 1 and half grand and i love it. Be warned tho the sheet load on the kite in anything over a force 4 is pretty big
although if your lucky enough to have a large enough budget just buy a 29er Edited by sailorboi |
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 12 Jun 07 at 10:55pm |
Get a 14 even if its a penny. You'll still have lots more fun and plus the nats are at the Royal Yacht Squadron this year :) Alex |
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 07 at 8:20am |
Be thankful you dont have any British Moths or Comets around...you thought the Solo was fast in light airs try beating one of the 2 above! |
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sailor_420
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 07 at 7:35pm |
Yeah i was also thinking of the laser 4000. The 5000 looks like its a bit of a handfull for me at the moment. Where i sail there is a lake which is pretty small, but there is also the Dee estuary which is very large and also has pretty small waves. Crew weight is about 17 - 18 stone. Price range is about up to £2000 so that limits it a lot. So in that price range and that crew weight what options are available....if any? Thanks again |
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Jack Sparrow
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 07 at 10:07pm |
This....
The Flying Kipper is a Dog design and was built in the early 90s by Richard Butler and designer Simon Roberts. In 2004 a snout was added by the original builders to enable a fully battened Batt jib to be added to the 90s rules Batt sail plan. The rig consists of a Proctor Aluminum mast and boom and amazingly light carbon fiber bow sprit. The centre board is a excellent condition Tasar foil and the dagger board pivots in an aluminum stock. This boat is fully sorted and ready to race. All the ropes are the correct length and thickness and the rig is fully tuned. All of these factors combined helped the boat earn herself a 5th place at the 2006 nationals in Largo despite racing amongst boats with larger sail plans. Another key factor in the boats performance is her weight, although not requiring lead to be class legal she is very close to the minimum weight and one of the lightest boats of her generation. www.uk-cherub.org For Sale right now. Edited by Jack Sparrow |
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 07 at 10:53pm |
To follow on from the post above... that boat is posessed by some kind of speed deamon.
She has a slightly smaller sailplan than most of the fleet but shes stiff, well sorted and down to weight and repeatedly sailed past me at last years nationals in a boat with the same hull design and more rag... |
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 14 Jun 07 at 12:36am |
from what i know you should look at laser 4k and 5k ( sounds like a 4k would be better for you) buzz iso (much like a 4000 from what ive seen) topaz trez from what ive seen these boats are underpowered also if u dont want a trapeze boat u cant beat an rs 200 |
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sailor_420
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 14 Jun 07 at 8:07pm |
Id prefer something with a trapeze because i think im keeping to 420 and this boat would just be for fun and racing on the right days. To be honest id probably prefer a boat thats not too much of a handful and not mega tippy or hard to capsize or easy to right after capsize. Ive heard the 4000 is hard to right after capsize? Is it and how hard/easy is it to capsize it? Also anymore ideas? Ive also heard the 500 is quite a handful (over budget aswel). How would that compare to the 3000? Thanks |
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Smight at BBSC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 15 Jun 07 at 11:40pm |
Yea I think the 4k is a good choice, reasonably priced good fun to sail+ weight equalisation meaning you could still be fairly competive at the lower weight range. Ps Don't get the cherub simply because i want it! I'm selling my 12 and my crew is selling his 200 so hopefully she'll be our's
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combat wombat
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jun 07 at 8:38am |
My incredibly unbiased opinion is the B14. If you can make it to the required weight for a Laser 4k you can sail a B14. They are hard but rewarding and much quicker than a 4k. They also go in light winds if you force the crew onto the foredeck.
2 grand should afford you a stiff Rondar with good sails and ally stick. Worlds coming up soon in Falmouth, should be an incredible event and the best place to learn how to sail one. http://www.b14.org Edited by combat wombat |
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