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Which Asymmetric for teenagers? |
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sailor_420
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Topic: Which Asymmetric for teenagers? Posted: 20 Apr 07 at 9:21pm |
Do they go in light winds? The 420 is pretty rubbish in light winds always come last in handicaps and get beaten by GPs, solos etc
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Prince Buster
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Apr 07 at 9:10pm |
Yeah you're heavy enough for one especially if you get a lot of the
light stuff. Second hand ones range from about £3500 to
£5000. Oh yea and they're absolute dogs in light winds.....
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sailor_420
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Apr 07 at 8:54pm |
Wow thats helped a lot, the 29er looks like a good choise im just not sure if me n my crew are heavy enough as i weigh 8 - 9 and he weighs about 10ish, is that heavy enough? Also what are they like in light winds as we get them quite frequently? And what sort of price is a second hand one at? Thanks again! |
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Alex C
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Apr 07 at 3:11pm |
29er - fantastic performance, opportunity to make the most of the RYA schemes, good resale value. But can be a bit tricky to sail, depends what sort of level you sail at, or want to progress to?
I sailed a Buzz during my teens and had a fantastic time. Even though upwind its far from spectacular, I haven't matched the downwind sensation in any other boat i've sailed... but then we go into the debate about absolute speed and sensation etc... As far as resale value goes I think prices are relatively stable, and with Wet & Windy promoting the boat with new Hyde sails I think the class has the opportunity to revitalise itself. The disadvantage is you don't get to benefit from the RYA stuff, and the fleet is smaller. But from personal experience the boat is quite easy to sail, and a lot of fun! I guess just look what sort of objectives you hope to achieve from owning the boat , and choose the boat from there. All the boats look decent to me, bar maybe the Vago. |
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Hector
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Apr 07 at 2:01pm |
29er but be careful to budget for new sails if needed - That puts many of the 3 - 4year old boats over the price of a brand new RS500. Buzz does look good value - not sure about resale though. |
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damp_freddie
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Apr 07 at 12:24pm |
29er, almost no need to debate it! It's a natural progression for you from 420 to 49er! great value package youth boat with a good learning curve for your 420 base of skills. Simple to set up and nice to move about on (apart from your knees in a shorty in light winds- decks like gravel). You'll get great OD racing at various levels and a decent re-sale value compared to development boats which go obsolete. |
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BBSCFaithfull
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Apr 07 at 12:24pm |
Saying that dennis when i sailed at itchenor with my m12 helm were racing against various ex olympic peeps etc. And the current 5oh world champ |
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feva_sailor
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Apr 07 at 12:23pm |
I know your more or less looking for a Monohull, But me and my usuall crew have been sailing Topcats and Hobies latly and they can get a real turn of speed.I would probably go for the Sl16 as it is a youth cat.But its reallyy up to you i dont know what they sail at your club i would go with the best boat for you with the biggest fleet at your club.
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49erGBR735HSC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Apr 07 at 12:12pm |
I had a Laser 5000 at about 16/17ish, brilliant boat at the time and stepped straight up from a Laser 2. There is a bit of a learning curve but it is extremely worth it. 14s will be slightly easier to handle as they are lighter and the rig won't load up so much up top sailing upwind due to the difference in weight. My only gripe of the 5000 at the time was that it was an absolute nightmare to right due to the weight in the rig. Olly and Alex have made a good point but it will also be dependant on your weight and attitude to the sport, if you are a light teenager and can get nervous on the boat, rule out the 14, if not go for it and be prepared to swim initially. Other options are 29er, then convert to XX then upgrade to 49er, or possibly a cherub or a 4000. The 4000, 29er and 500 all have the advantages of they do or will have relatively competitive fleets, so if you value racing over thrill factor, they may be more appropriate, although I sailed the 5000 on PY a lot outside class racing and you do realise stepping back into other fleets that if you're fast in something like a 5k or 14, it usually stands you in good stead for hitting the front of the fleet in other classes as your boat handling skills are high.
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BBSCFaithfull
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Apr 07 at 8:22am |
Second that! My 14 cost me all of 1750 to buy. And you get to embaress all the 800s you wish! |
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