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Originally posted by WildWood

Cruising can be just as challenging as racing as well. 

 Definately, and much more risky. Sailing in strange tidal waters, harbours and inlets without the cover of a safety boat and out of sight of the club house can be a little dangerous. Perhaps thats what puts these Guys and Gals off

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Perhaps another response would be top say that dinghy cruising is what sailors do when they're confident enough to go out without a constant watch from a rescue boat!

I've cruised in nearly all my dinghies, in a Laser only up to about 5 miles distant but in a Finn I've done 45 miles in a day and slept in it at night.  I've also slept on a cat by putting a tent over the boom.  The trouble is that often now as soon as you sail out past a club sailing area you get rescue boats rushing up and asking you what you're up to and accusing you of being irresponsible, even if it is only a 5 mile sail up the coast in the Laser.  We're so scared by the H&S brigade these days that we've lost all idea of self sufficiency and seamanship.

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The trouble with 'cruising' in a Laser on your own is that there isn't any backup equipment if things go wrong.  I assume you have no VHF, flares, life raft etc, in which case I think that is being rather irresponsible.  There is no alternative means of propultion, so if you break your mast in an off shore wind, or the breeze picks up you can soo find yourself in a pickle.

On a yacht it is normally different as there is generally some alternative means of propultion, they can generally be reefed fairly easily and there should be all the other saftey equipment incase something goes wrong.  You need to think before you head out 'if something goes wrong can i get out of the situation myself'.  If you can do that without relying on a lifeboat then fair enough, otherwise you taking a big risk, and potentially putting other people at risk as well.

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I bought one of those waterproof cases for my mobile. They (case and phone) just sit in the halyard bag in case of emergencies, but frankly round here, you can't go far anyway- even in the solent:, worst case, you might end up on the IOW, but not much further. There are plenty of yachts around anyway- most w/ends you will hear calls on the radio expressing concern about some dinghy or other. Mostly it's unfounded, but at least people are watching! I think if you worry too much you'll never do anything. When I started sailing none of the yachts had VHF, and nobody called us irresponsible. We often started dinghy races without a rescue boat in attendance (if the crew was watching from the bar, it was "manned") and I have never seen any problems in nearly 40 years of sailing.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote foaminatthedeck Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Mar 07 at 4:04pm

I don't know the IoW is a pritty scary place! 

Having said that I remember sailing my laser out of Bembridge I'd leave on the morning tide and come back in the evening and I went all over the solent. Didn't do me any harm!



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Unfortunately there are too many people now who think you need 'VHF, flares, liferaft etc.' before you can venture out in a boat.  I agree with Rob.e and foaminatthedeck, not long ago we were crossing the channel and even oceans without such kit. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Mar 07 at 9:48am
Just finishing a dinghy cruising book by Margeret Dye and was totally impressed with with her "can do" attitude, I still concluded that she is a bloomin nutter though (braver than me by streets). She recomends wearing wellies whilst cruising cos they offer some protection against alligators I got cold sweats just reading the book.....I think the type of cruising that suits me would be in a fleet in reasonably sheltered waters, Sheppey, Chichester and such.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote WildWood Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Mar 07 at 11:26am

The kit you need obviously depends on where you're sailing and the conditions.  I guess the solent is very different to the west of Scotland.  There are obviously far fewer people about up here and the weather can change pretty fast.  You can obviously still do it, but it's just a question of whether it's safe and what would happen if something goes wrong.

Maybe you could / can still sail across the channel without any saftey kit or a saftey boat in a Finn or and Enterprise, but I wouldn't do it, no chance.  If you ask me thats f**king stupid!  Ent's are about as sea worthy and easy to handle as a log in anything above a F5, and I sail one...

I'm not saying you should have a VHF etc before setting out on a wee summer time pootle in sheltered waters, but that isn't what we're talking about is it?

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Charlie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Mar 07 at 7:17pm
In 1977 Mexican sailor Carlos Aragón sailed an Olympic Finn 107 days from Acapulco to Tahiti.He was tied to the boat all the time, and i bet he didn't have VHF etc.
Here is a picture of him at the start of the 1977 trip.

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